Vans! - Page 392

whitham_wannabe · 01-15-2013, 08:35 AM

Meandering through Youtube trying to find some Dakar footage that ASO hadn't taken down yet, and I came across a film featuring this bit of inspired lunacy.

Action shots are in here somewhere ...

PA Slammer · 01-15-2013, 04:01 PM

What are the thoughts on an 11,000 lb RV on a 3500 Sprinter chassis... in the snow? Chains good enough? Studded tires better? Neither, just stay at home?

broncobowsher · 01-16-2013, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PA Slammer

What are the thoughts on an 11,000 lb RV on a 3500 Sprinter chassis... in the snow? Chains good enough? Studded tires better? Neither, just stay at home?

Typically a 3500 chassis maxes out GVW at 9900Lbs for a single rear wheel. So with 11k you are running a dual rear tire?

Just load enough food so when you get stuck you can be at home and live in it until thaw

Ko · 01-16-2013, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PA Slammer

What are the thoughts on an 11,000 lb RV on a 3500 Sprinter chassis... in the snow? Chains good enough? Studded tires better? Neither, just stay at home?

Chains trump studs... I'd run winter tires or aggressive tires, and if in danger to get stuck throw on the chains.

+1, pack enough food

Kidding aside, if it's not backcountry I wouldn't worry.

Ko

Ko · 01-16-2013, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by whitham_wannabe

Meandering through Youtube trying to find some Dakar footage that ASO hadn't taken down yet, and I came across a film featuring this bit of inspired lunacy.

Action shots are in here somewhere ...

nice...

Ko

ErikY. · 01-16-2013, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PA Slammer

What are the thoughts on an 11,000 lb RV on a 3500 Sprinter chassis... in the snow? Chains good enough? Studded tires better? Neither, just stay at home?

Studded ice radials and chains only if needed ie: 4' of snow going up or down a mountain. A good ice tire even without studs is vastly better than an all-season!

PA Slammer · 01-16-2013, 08:28 AM

Yeah it's a dully. 2012 model. So if I go studded winter tire, the next dumbass question would be front and back? And do I have to go with both on the dullies? Proly a stupid question, but I don't know jack about dullies... 6 new tires may determine my "need" to use it in the winter.

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ErikY. · 01-16-2013, 08:36 AM

Front and back

. And all 4 on the back I'd say. There's less weight per square inch back there so stud em up.

gs'n · 01-16-2013, 11:22 AM

it got pretty deep near Mammoth Lakes, Ca.....

Gritz n' Gravy

dentedvw · 01-16-2013, 02:48 PM

That looks like track territory.

MrPulldown · 01-16-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gs'n

it got pretty deep near Mammoth Lakes, Ca.....

Gritz n' Gravy

That looks like the field closet to green chuch hotsprings.

dentedvw · 01-16-2013, 03:04 PM

We've been shopping again, and still come up wanting something not available here, unless we buy a $printer.

I just am not ready to buy into the Mercedes parts problems, not to mention the cost of the thing. Whoa.

Maybe Ford will stop pushing back the release of the new full size Transit.

Maybe Nissan will offer the longer wheelbase NV.

+three feet. Still can't fit plywood and passengers.
Maybe Dodge will bring in the Fiat Ducato.

One way or another, I am ready to stop dumping money into the old Ford E350. I don't want to spend another few grand putting a solid axle in, only to change vehicles in a year.
Give me something I can put an ARB in the rear, and at least a little bit of a lift please. I hate getting stuck in the desert.

gs'n · 01-16-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPulldown

That looks like the field closet to green chuch hotsprings.

it seemed like a good idea at the time.....

Ko · 01-16-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dentedvw

We've been shopping again, and still come up wanting something not available here, unless we buy a $printer.

I just am not ready to buy into the Mercedes parts problems, not to mention the cost of the thing. Whoa.

Maybe Ford will stop pushing back the release of the new full size Transit.

Maybe Nissan will offer the longer wheelbase NV.

Maybe Dodge will bring in the Fiat Ducato.

One way or another, I am ready to stop dumping money into the old Ford E350. I don't want to spend another few grand putting a solid axle in, only to change vehicles in a year.
Give me something I can put an ARB in the rear, and at least a little bit of a lift please. I hate getting stuck in the desert.

If you hate the price of a Sprinter, what makes you think that the new Transit, or Ducato, is going to be much cheaper? FYI, Ducatos sit lower due to FWD. Although the rumour is they'll bring Ivecos as well in order to compete with Sprinter dually's. But when?

I still hope that Chrysler will bring the 4x4 Daily... if you get stuck in desert with 24 gears you're doing it wrong

I'd be one of the first to put down a deposit on one of those...

Have you considered a mild version, such as an AWD Savana?

Money wise, you can do all that to an E350 and still be much under the price of a Sprinter.

Ko

Otis the Sasquatch · 01-23-2013, 03:22 PM

Just when I thought I knew everything.....

I learn that International Harvester made quite a few runs at developing a van through the 60's & 70's.

My favorite, the proposed Scout-Based AWD mini-van.

The pics of the prior prototypes are in this "Hemmings Daily" article.
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...rs/?refer=news

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01-15-2013, 08:35 AM	#5866
whitham_wannabe Studly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Mukilteo, WA Oddometer: 802	Meandering through Youtube trying to find some Dakar footage that ASO hadn't taken down yet, and I came across a film featuring this bit of inspired lunacy. Action shots are in here somewhere ... __________________ From a WW1 RAF Flight Manual ... "If a crash at the home airfield is inevitable, try to hit something soft and, preferably, inexpensive" Travels With Bruce : More Travels With Bruce

01-16-2013, 08:28 AM	#5872
PA Slammer Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Eighty Four, PA Oddometer: 373	Yeah it's a dully. 2012 model. So if I go studded winter tire, the next dumbass question would be front and back? And do I have to go with both on the dullies? Proly a stupid question, but I don't know jack about dullies... 6 new tires may determine my "need" to use it in the winter. :down::down::: thumbdown::down: PA Slammer

01-16-2013, 08:36 AM	#5873
ErikY. Ambivilator Joined: Feb 2009 Location: North of you, probably Oddometer: 1,334	Front and back . And all 4 on the back I'd say. There's less weight per square inch back there so stud em up. __________________ "Live your own life, for you will die your own death" Roman proverb. "practice empathy" bouldergeek "Touratech have nice mounting kits but they want a testicle and half a square yard of scrotum skin for them. They can fuck right off." Frey Bentos

01-16-2013, 11:22 AM	#5874
gs'n odd knob Joined: Feb 2006 Location: 77 7's in a row Oddometer: 344	it got pretty deep near Mammoth Lakes, Ca..... Gritz n' Gravy __________________ Patton 26020HX air heater (1500 watts) 1992 (fake) Swiss Army multi-tool 2008-2009 2 litre Coke bottle (full) 1969 Tom Jones Live in Las Vegas (lp)

01-16-2013, 02:48 PM	#5875
dentedvw Where did I put that Joined: Mar 2008 Location: ☼SLC-ish☼ Oddometer: 2,016	That looks like track territory. __________________ "Even though my trip turned out badly, I don't regret the kind of life I chose to live. Adventure!" RIP-Clay Schwartz 9/14/07 The bike never has been, never is, and never will be the limiting factor in my, your, or anyone else's ability to have an adventure. -jake28-

01-15-2013, 04:01 PM	#5867
PA Slammer Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Eighty Four, PA Oddometer: 373	What are the thoughts on an 11,000 lb RV on a 3500 Sprinter chassis... in the snow? Chains good enough? Studded tires better? Neither, just stay at home?

01-16-2013, 03:04 PM	#5877
dentedvw Where did I put that Joined: Mar 2008 Location: ☼SLC-ish☼ Oddometer: 2,016	We've been shopping again, and still come up wanting something not available here, unless we buy a $printer. I just am not ready to buy into the Mercedes parts problems, not to mention the cost of the thing. Whoa. Maybe Ford will stop pushing back the release of the new full size Transit. Maybe Nissan will offer the longer wheelbase NV. +three feet. Still can't fit plywood and passengers. Maybe Dodge will bring in the Fiat Ducato. One way or another, I am ready to stop dumping money into the old Ford E350. I don't want to spend another few grand putting a solid axle in, only to change vehicles in a year. Give me something I can put an ARB in the rear, and at least a little bit of a lift please. I hate getting stuck in the desert. __________________ "Even though my trip turned out badly, I don't regret the kind of life I chose to live. Adventure!" RIP-Clay Schwartz 9/14/07 The bike never has been, never is, and never will be the limiting factor in my, your, or anyone else's ability to have an adventure. -jake28-

01-23-2013, 03:22 PM	#5880
Otis the Sasquatch Studly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Kirkwood, MO Oddometer: 603	Just when I thought I knew everything..... I learn that International Harvester made quite a few runs at developing a van through the 60's & 70's. My favorite, the proposed Scout-Based AWD mini-van. The pics of the prior prototypes are in this "Hemmings Daily" article. http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...rs/?refer=news . __________________ "If You Wanna' Get to Heaven..... You've Got to Raise a Little Hell" Ozark Mountain Daredevils

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