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Old 12-01-2009, 05:31 PM   #661
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Catalytic heaters turn propane into mostly water vapor (and CO2). While mostly safe, your windows will freeze completely over if you leave it on during the night.
freeze? I live in California!

Actually, I generally don't camp in below freezing, although after Death Valley last year in the mountains at about 12 degrees, the GF requested a heater. I don't intend to use it much, but it takes the edge off when it gets colder. We tried it out on thanksgiving and it likely wasn't much below 40. But te windshield was a bit foggy when we tried to leave.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:38 PM   #662
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how do you think an airlocker would work in snow? Would that make it more sketch?
as someone else pointed out. Yes. Wouldn't want locker in the snow. Good for offroad though.

I grew up driving a rear drive Volvo turbo in New England. Dad always had snow tires on it... Until I got it with 200k, then i had to buy them. Well, screw that, I figured pirelli sport tires would do ok. More beer money. Which was true, if you were in college in upstate NY and you liked to fishtail!!!

All you need is a couple of sandbags. Or better yet, couple of heavy amplifiers and a couple of subwoofers, and then the added weight serves a purpose.

(helpin' out again)
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:54 PM   #663
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Lookie what I found, too bad I can't afford it now..
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:27 PM   #664
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I can lock the rear axle on my 4runner independently of the 4wd. From my unscientific tests, I have found two things.

1. For the purposes of unstucking one's self, a rear locker works pretty well. It will get you going under most conditions. With chains, you will be mostly unstoppable up until the snow is hitting the undercarriage/axles.

2. For the purposes of driving on packed snow, the rear end will pull side to side depending on the angle of the road. So, use appropriately. Just like 4wd.

Honestly, unless you were in snow all the time, a two wheel drive with chains and a locker will get you where you want to go. 4wd in many cases is a lot of cost for very little use. I probably use it more because I can...not because I have to.
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Old 12-02-2009, 06:28 AM   #665
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Sounds like the trick. I keep looking at the Sprinter....
Espar sells heaters for all kinds of Diesel vehicles, though its kewl it comes factory on Sprinters.

http://www.espar.com/
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:54 AM   #666
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I can lock the rear axle on my 4runner independently of the 4wd. From my unscientific tests, I have found two things.

1. For the purposes of unstucking one's self, a rear locker works pretty well. It will get you going under most conditions. With chains, you will be mostly unstoppable up until the snow is hitting the undercarriage/axles.

2. For the purposes of driving on packed snow, the rear end will pull side to side depending on the angle of the road. So, use appropriately. Just like 4wd.

Honestly, unless you were in snow all the time, a two wheel drive with chains and a locker will get you where you want to go. 4wd in many cases is a lot of cost for very little use. I probably use it more because I can...not because I have to.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:17 AM   #667
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Honestly, unless you were in snow all the time, a two wheel drive with chains and a locker will get you where you want to go. 4wd in many cases is a lot of cost for very little use. I probably use it more because I can...not because I have to.

Yep, 4wd will just get ya stuck harder.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:41 AM   #668
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We're just into our techno talk and she posts that?

Yeah. But it's a party in a van....

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Old 12-03-2009, 07:03 AM   #669
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Old 12-03-2009, 08:41 AM   #670
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Last week I saw a late VW Adventurewagon at the Home Depot. Now I really want one...

It said 4WD on it. Did they really make 4 wheel drive Synchro vans? Kewl!
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Old 12-03-2009, 09:11 AM   #671
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Last week I saw a late VW Adventurewagon at the Home Depot. Now I really want one...

It said 4WD on it. Did they really make 4 wheel drive Synchro vans? Kewl!
Of course. For example the VW Multivan 'Pan Americana"


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Old 12-03-2009, 09:18 AM   #672
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:01 AM   #673
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RWD vans are a different story in snow. The best place to put your money, IMO, is in a good set of real snow tires, studded if your state allows it (Michigan doesn't), and a bunch of extra weight in the back. Then, for emergencies, a set of tire chains. //
I drove our 1995 Ford Econoline during a rough winter in the late 90's (over 100" of snow). We eventually put around 720 lbs of sand over the rear wheels: you can buy 60 lb bags of "tube sand" for about $3.50 each.

That made all the difference in the world. Sure a lot cheaper than AWD.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:04 AM   #674
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That's what i want right there.................but I'm told I need to replace the axles. $$$$$$$$1300.00 or so.




As a van convert earlier this year, I'll pile on the pro van bandwagon.

A couple of my dirt bike buddys have used them as long as I can remember but I always resisted, thinking I needed a truck of some sort.

I stumbled across a fully loaded 15 passenger E350 w/a 7.3 powerstroke that I was able to make a deal for. Can't belive I didn't get a van sooner. I love the fact all my gear in inside and when I want to load up the night before riding everything is locked up....+ I had a much better place to crash @ the 24hr of Glen Helen than in the rear crew-cab seat.

Down side though, since I don't have a Quigley or Sportsmobile 4x4, I did almost get stuck in some sand @ Superstition Mt. I hear the locker is almost as good as 4WD.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:21 PM   #675
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I vant zat VW van!!
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