Let's see your 1200GS/A - Page 14

mikepa · 01-01-2006, 01:12 PM

It's taken almost as long as a human gestation, but here's what the stork brought to my garage for the New Year! I'll let the pics speak for themselves, but am happy to reply to any posts!:

GB · 01-01-2006, 01:18 PM

Wow!! She's a beauty.. A lot of attention to detail..

Very nice!! What's the deal on the shifter and the attachment to it?

GB · 01-01-2006, 01:21 PM

Also, how was the braking system to the sidecar handled? I see you have servo / ABS on it. I'm guessing the brake for the sidecar wheel is completely independent of the semi-integral brakes of the bike..

Zodiac · 01-01-2006, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget Boy

Also, how was the braking system to the sidecar handled? I see you have servo / ABS on it. I'm guessing the brake for the sidecar wheel is completely independent of the semi-integral brakes of the bike..

I don't see a brake on that tub rim.................(?)

mikepa · 01-01-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget Boy

What's the deal on the shifter and the attachment to it?

All this and more may be found at:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112117

Best,

Mike

mikepa · 01-01-2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget Boy

Also, how was the braking system to the sidecar handled? I see you have servo / ABS on it. I'm guessing the brake for the sidecar wheel is completely independent of the semi-integral brakes of the bike..

Spent a lot of time agonizing over a sidecar brake, and after testing this rig, and also cross-checking my findings on my Ural Gear-Up, I decided to punt on any brake on the tub at all. Didn't need it, the hexhead has marvelous brakes, and if a hack pilot doesn't use a little more caution entering and exiting corners than a regular rider, he or she is in deep trouble even if they have the finest brakes in the world all around!

There were certainly some design considerations as well. Plumbing into the ABS/servo system is a scary proposition. No way to really proporation the braking to the sidecar wheel, and who knows what would happen if the ABS actuators kicked in? And, a goal was a field detachable sidecar, so even though quick-disconnect hydraulic fittings do exist, it was more plumbing that I didn't want to deal with, and I wanted the stock brakes as reliable as they could be. But, riding it was the final deciding factor. Yes, a separately-operated sidecar brake is cool and great for parking lot grandstanding, but it turns out, for my needs, it just wasn't needed!

Best,

Mike

GStupid · 01-01-2006, 03:15 PM

Do you have any photos of how it mounts? Im actually interested in a hack, but would have to be able to "disconnect" on a whim. Then I could mount my kayaks (and other nutty ideas) appropriately.

mikepa · 01-01-2006, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GStupid

Do you have any photos of how it mounts? Im actually interested in a hack, but would have to be able to "disconnect" on a whim. Then I could mount my kayaks (and other nutty ideas) appropriately.

If you're referring to how the car mounts to the chassis, no, I don't have any pics, and the rig isn't here right now, but perhaps I can explain in words.

The car is mounted to the chassis via four shock isolation mounts. Each mount has a flanged plate top and bottom. Each plate has four screws in it. So, there is a total of 16 fasteners that fix the mounts to the chassis, and another 16 that secure the car to the mounts. They look something like ones you can see via the link below, but rather than the round/threaded cap, both "sides" have the square mounting plate:

http://www.starcase.com/images/isomo...t_back_700.jpg

Best,

Mike

mikepa · 01-01-2006, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GStupid

Do you have any photos of how it mounts?

Found this pic which shows some detail of the four rubber isolators that mount the car body to the chassis. The pieces on the ground are the rear bumper, trunk rack, and the belly sheets (to protect the underside of the car from rocks):

Best,

Mike

tpr115 · 01-01-2006, 09:19 PM

Me, some mud, and street tires. Not a good combo!

rdcyclist · 01-01-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tpr115

Ya know, TPR, there's a theme here...

crusader · 01-02-2006, 05:35 AM

first question : what's the mark of the car ?
second : in what country does it take place ?
third : which one from the two vehicles is in breach of the law ?

Devil Dog · 01-02-2006, 09:04 AM

BMW
UK
He is

Do I win?

crusader · 01-02-2006, 09:18 AM

you're wrong for the three , devildog.

talaris · 01-02-2006, 09:33 AM

Renault

France

He is.

Do I win

01-01-2006, 01:12 PM	#196
mikepa SideCzarist Joined: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA in the Great Pacific NorthWET (USA) Oddometer: 306	And now for something entirely different (in an R12GS).... It's taken almost as long as a human gestation, but here's what the stork brought to my garage for the New Year! I'll let the pics speak for themselves, but am happy to reply to any posts!: __________________ Mike M. Paull '05 BMW R1200GS/EZS Rally "L" (UberHack 1.0) '05 BMW R1150GS Adventure/Ural "SideCzar" (Uberhack 2.0) '04 BMW R1150GS Adventure/Ural "WarBird" (UberHack 3.0) http://www.globeriders.com Kenmore, WA USA "The world is a book and those that do not travel, read only a page." - St. Augustine "...not all those that wander are lost." - J. R. R. Tolkien

01-01-2006, 09:19 PM	#205
tpr115 Adventurer Joined: Sep 2005 Location: South Lyon, MI Oddometer: 92	This weekend Me, some mud, and street tires. Not a good combo!

01-02-2006, 09:04 AM	#208
Devil Dog Q-Tip With Ears Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Port Clinton, Ohio Oddometer: 9,028	BMW UK He is Do I win? __________________ Posted from my abacus using a chopstick

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01-01-2006, 01:18 PM	#197
GB Mod Squad Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Oddometer: 53,466	Wow!! She's a beauty.. A lot of attention to detail.. Very nice!! What's the deal on the shifter and the attachment to it?

01-01-2006, 01:21 PM	#198
GB Mod Squad Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Oddometer: 53,466	Also, how was the braking system to the sidecar handled? I see you have servo / ABS on it. I'm guessing the brake for the sidecar wheel is completely independent of the semi-integral brakes of the bike..

01-01-2006, 03:15 PM	#202
GStupid Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Portland, OR. Oddometer: 305	Do you have any photos of how it mounts? Im actually interested in a hack, but would have to be able to "disconnect" on a whim. Then I could mount my kayaks (and other nutty ideas) appropriately.

01-02-2006, 05:35 AM	#207
crusader Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2005 Location: europe Oddometer: 159	first question : what's the mark of the car ? second : in what country does it take place ? third : which one from the two vehicles is in breach of the law ?

01-02-2006, 09:18 AM	#209
crusader Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2005 Location: europe Oddometer: 159	you're wrong for the three , devildog.

01-02-2006, 09:33 AM	#210
talaris n00b Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Cornwall England Oddometer: 5	Renault France He is. Do I win