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Old 03-30-2009, 12:33 PM   #16
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If you sold off a couple of organs or body parts, you could get a spare set of wheels.
At just under $1000 US per wheel...

I wonder if it's any cheaper to just buy the hubs, rotors, etc and pay someone to put better rims on and lace em up? You'd have a better wheel in the end. It's still bound to cost a pretty penny, though. Just a few less.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:02 PM   #17
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At just under $1000 US per wheel...

I wonder if it's any cheaper to just buy the hubs, rotors, etc and pay someone to put better rims on and lace em up? You'd have a better wheel in the end. It's still bound to cost a pretty penny, though. Just a few less.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:34 AM   #18
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Any new reports on TKC mileage on the F800GS? I've got a few hundred on mine so far. Already seeing wear. 50% dirt/50% tarmac.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:15 PM   #19
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Any new reports on TKC mileage on the F800GS? I've got a few hundred on mine so far. Already seeing wear. 50% dirt/50% tarmac.
Only have a front on, not a rear (been experimenting), but I've got about 4.5k on the front. A decent amount of tread left, but showing signs of major cuppage. Probably order a new one after SLAP.
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:31 PM   #20
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checkout the k60 for the rear
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:36 AM   #21
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Any new reports on TKC mileage on the F800GS? I've got a few hundred on mine so far. Already seeing wear. 50% dirt/50% tarmac.
2500 miles for the rear and it was toast. Front looks to be getting twice that mileage so I'll replace both soon. Of course this was cooler weather, I expect worse as summer heats things up.

The initial wear is fast. My first set of TKCs was on a KLR , 200 or 300 miles I got to Death Valley and looked at my tire and wondered if I would make it home . Wear seems slower as the tire gets used in my experience. Keep in mind you can run the rear until it's about bald on the center lug and you will still have decent traction from the side lugs that stick out if you get into the soft stuff. I've been suprised at the crap I've been through with no center lug left .Don't think of it like and MX tire or you'll be replacing a rear after every ride.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:07 AM   #22
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I've gone from Battlewings to TKCs. After a month I can see the wear is happening a little too fast for my liking. I have been directed towards good reviews on Mefros and my go that route next time. Not a road version and not a knobby. Somewhere in between.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:28 AM   #23
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I've gone from Battlewings to TKCs. After a month I can see the wear is happening a little too fast for my liking. I have been directed towards good reviews on Mefros and my go that route next time. Not a road version and not a knobby. Somewhere in between.
If you're thinking of the Mefo Explorer, Toadride, they don't make a rear in a size that will fit the F800. The closest is the 130/80-17. You may also want to consider the Heidenau K60. It looks to be a twin of the Mefo, comes in a 140/80-17, and gets great reviews from those who have tried it.

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Old 07-15-2009, 12:12 PM   #24
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Rear TKC80 at 3,600 miles. Very close to Tire Wear Indicator (TWI). Especially on those offset lugs. The centered lugs seem to want to hold up longer. This bike just seems to put so much power to the rear wheel, I'm ripping through these! Not going to run TKC's again unless I have to. Those Heidenau K60's look good, but availability sucks and they're just as spendy. Shinko 705's are getting great reviews and are cheap! Look promising.....

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Old 07-15-2009, 02:13 PM   #25
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One thing that surprised me was how quick the front turned to toast. Admittedly a lot of high speed, but once they started to cup they went fast. I am looking for something better.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:35 PM   #26
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I'm ripping through these! Not going to run TKC's again unless I have to. Those Heidenau K60's look good, but availability sucks and they're just as spendy. Shinko 705's are getting great reviews and are cheap! Look promising.....
My rear is almost that low at under 2k miles.

I agree the Heidenaus look good, but are nearly as expensive. However, they do appear to last longer, which makes that better spent money...

The Shinko 705 is clearly the bang for the buck tire. Less traction than the K60 or TKC, but unless you're doing a lot of mud, snow or sand, you really don't need a knobby or highly aggressive tread pattern. At under $120 a pair with pretty good lifespan, these are very tempting.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:58 PM   #27
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I'm on my 3rd rear since Feb

I'm getting about 3500 miles out of the rear, maybe 5 on the front (with dramatic cupping).

So I've been trying to determine that the TKC's last longer on pavement than dirt, way longer. Higher pressures and less slippage on pavement seems to be important.

Yes to the first 500 miles being the fastest wear, then it seems to slow down.

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Very close to Tire Wear Indicator (TWI)..
Unless I'm looking at your picture incorrectly it looks like you still have quite a few street miles left on there. You really can run these things down to nothing on the street, an as I mentioned earlier the side lugs will still dig in in sand an even mud although not ideal.

Here's a pic of what I meant by my tire was toast at 2,500 miles


Maybe a 1/16 to the wear bar.

That being said I would never run these tires for an extended road trip or comuting or if I just used it on street, far better tires for all of that. But for true 50/50 day an weekend rides I haven't found better yet an if I have to replace them soon it isn't much worse than keeping fresh tires on a dirtbike if you like to play every weekend.

Of course I actually got a letter from the county telling me I had to cease my illegal hauling of used waste tires on a public roadway (true story)
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:32 AM   #29
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Unless I'm looking at your picture incorrectly it looks like you still have quite a few street miles left on there. You really can run these things down to nothing on the street, an as I mentioned earlier the side lugs will still dig in in sand an even mud although not ideal.

Maybe a 1/16 to the wear bar.

That being said I would never run these tires for an extended road trip or comuting or if I just used it on street, far better tires for all of that. But for true 50/50 day an weekend rides I haven't found better yet an if I have to replace them soon it isn't much worse than keeping fresh tires on a dirtbike if you like to play every weekend.

Of course I actually got a letter from the county telling me I had to cease my illegal hauling of used waste tires on a public roadway (true story)
Yeah, given the wear rate on my rear TKC so far, I'm estimating I have 500 more road miles tops. And if you look at my picture again, the worst wear is on the offset lugs - the ones that have the TWI in between them. The centered lugs seem to fair better. But I'm going to go by the TWI.


@ 3,600 mi

I'll get about 4,000-4,300 out of the rear tops. And my god, the front has cupping like nobody's business!! The wear pattern on the front is odd enough that I'm also considering it toast fairly soon, unless I remove it and reverse it.

This may have to do with PSI as well. I ran 22 in the front and 28 in the rear for the majority of my last trip. I did so based upon my experience with the TKC's on my KLR's. Not a good idea on the F800GS. I've learned that it's very important to run higher PSI's (32 front - 36 rear) in these if you're riding road. With a higher PSI they handle better, wear better, and cupping is reduced up front. Then when you hit gravel or trails, drop them 10 PSI or so.

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Old 07-16-2009, 06:10 PM   #30
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Here's a few pics of my TKC rear with 4800 Km (3000 miles). Ready for the junk pile. 70% pavement. Run at 32 PSI. I have a couple of Mitas E-09 Dakars on their way as we speak.




Here's a couple with a front MT-21. This tire is great on gravel and dirt roads. It's a got maybe 200 more Km (125 miles) than the TKC. 32PSI.

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