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Old 04-05-2009, 02:07 AM   #196
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Have you got any pictures of those ortlieb bags on how they're mounted?
Glad you asked (you too dang) so I can brag some more

In 2005/2006 I rode around Australia anti clockwise. We were nearing the end of the Gibb River Road (between Katherine and Broome on the north/ north-west coast), heading towards Derby, when my water temp light came on. I was cruising at the normal 100-110 km/h and the airtemp was about 45oC. The day drew to a close and this wasn't the best place to get stranded (we didn't have any food and limited amount of water and as it turned out I didn't have enought fuel to get to Derby either).

I looked down and found coolant down the right hand side of the engine aswell as my leg and boot. The top of the radiator was wet, but there was no apparent holes. My tiny, tiny pea-brains infinite widom swiftly concluded that this was a clever safety feature which, to avoid over preassure, lets steam out of the lid/ valve...(in my defense there was no further water anywhere and no obvious reason for this happening). I removed all the screws to get to the innards of the bike and topped of the radiator.

Gibb River Road wrenching


Bush-bees anyone (I'm sure Aussies will get a smile from this one)


We rode to Derby and then on to Broome without a hitch. We even took a trip up to middle lagoon (Cape L'eveque) where you ride in deep sand the whole way and no more problems. I didn't think there was a serious problem so I didn't check the bike further during the 3 weeks we spent in Broome. But ofcourse just 2 hours after we left Broome the water temp light came back on. I ended up riding the whole of the west coast all the way down to Perth with the light coming on more and more frequently. In the end I had to throw in the towel 400 kms north of Perth and got a ride the rest of the way.

In Perth I ordered a new radiator and got it fitted without any problems. We left Perth to see the World Rally Championship on a thursday (we had tickets for saturday).



On friday the water temp light came back on for a brief moment and as I rode through the tiny town of Boddington coolent started spraying out of the exhaust. Uh uh. BIG trouble....

My guess is that all of the overheating had worn the headgasket to it's braking point, and when there was no longer another route with less resistance the preassure blew the headgasket near the exhaust (luckily no water in the oil or vice versa).



More luck as there was one -1- headgasket in Australia. Can you believe it ??? The BM shop in Brisbane had one and I got the bike back on the road after another 2 weeks. (BMW Australia in Melbourne really didn't have a clue. About a month later I needed a new wterpump and they had to order it from Germany. They didn't have one waterpump in stock... )

The nice people in the Shell service station in Boddington lent me the tools needed to replace the headgasket (such as a torque wrench)

Ortlieb MC side cases - which I LOVE !!!


I copied the TT design (Hepco Becker). Meant to use 16mm tube but we didn't have any so I used 20mm. in retrospect I should've used 14mm or 12mm. It is fairly heave and way to sturdy, but it has done it's job well. As crashbars aswell.


These cases are so good ! Easy to put on and off. Almost the same capacity as alu cases. WHEN you crash they simply rip off and you can fix it with a needle, dental floss and luggage straps (yes I've done that) (more than once) where as my buddies alu cases has to be welded and crap when he chrases.

More pictures (the luggage frames was never the main objective, so you'll have to deal with the pictures as is)



I made them (luggage frames) with the original exhaust installed so now I need to get them closer to the bike (see the R100s next to mine) (Two of my travel mates checking the map in a town in the south west corner of Australia)



Stupid ignorant mistake. Playing around on a large flat piece of sand. "Powersliding" at 70 km/h and lowsiding. Fetch the dental floss and fix the problem



Suspension needing a bit of TLC. My buddy Yngve assessing the situation.



If you decide to go with teh Ortlieb cases you need to either make your own or order the Ortlieb extension velcro straps because the BMW is so fat... no seriously, depending on if you high or low with the starps connecting the two bags over the bike, you'll need to make som adjustments.



I'll leave you with a picture of the road to Cape L'eveque for now....a bit sandy....150 kms from Broome to middle lagoon as far as I can recall

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Old 04-05-2009, 02:11 AM   #197
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Do they allow for a HID setup with a seperate high and low beam bulb?
Dunno.

I wouldn't think the plastic would manage the heat.

As is the Big one is 5w park and high beam (seperate bulbs) and the smaller one is a low beam convecs type lens (seperate bulb). I have it set up to the originale switch, but I'm reworking that this summer so I can run high and low together.
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Old 04-05-2009, 02:13 AM   #198
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Are you sure ? I'm pretty damn sure I paid the full freakin tax for the full freakin Kw model, but this may help explain why after upgrading to a K&N filter and Staintune exhaust it only made 38 frakin bhp on the Dyno....

Top speed is the same in either setting though.

In regards to the head being off in one of the pictures please see my next post (in a few)

Just talked to Yngve (mention in post above) and he wasn't sure about the low kW model as he'd never converted one. He thought maybe they had to remap the FI aswell as moving the throttle cable. (Yngve is a mechanic in BMW shop).
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Old 04-05-2009, 07:39 AM   #199
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I'm yet to see someone inflict more abuse to a motorcycle than you do. And somehow it is still alive? We should have a contest here for who has the most abused Dakar. So far you get my vote. And it proves the machine is strong enough.

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We rode to Derby and then on to Broome without a hitch. We even took a trip up to middle lagoon (Cape L'eveque) where you ride in deep sand the whole way and no more problems. I didn't think there was a serious problem so I didn't check the bike further during the 3 weeks we spent in Broome. But ofcourse just 2 hours after we left Broome the water temp light came back on. I ended up riding the whole of the west coast all the way down to Perth with the light coming on more and more frequently. In the end I had to throw in the towel 400 kms north of Perth and got a ride the rest of the way.



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Old 04-05-2009, 11:48 AM   #200
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This is the throttle cable in the 'standard' 50bhp position.As can be seen,using the other groove reduces the maximum throttle opening by about a third and limits the output to,AFAIK,33bhp.

EDIT: A different bracket to hold the outer cable is utilised for the restricted power option.




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Old 04-06-2009, 01:06 AM   #201
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This is the throttle cable in the 'standard' 50bhp position.As can be seen,using the other groove reduces the maximum throttle opening by about a third and limits the output to,AFAIK,33bhp.

EDIT: A different bracket to hold the outer cable is utilised for the restricted power option.




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Yeah I had Yngve check this morning and he said they only moved the cable, but another bracket may explain why I didn't feel much difference between the two notches. I'm running it on the dyno again this summer tho to see if I now have more than 38,6 HP on the wheel (50 NM torque).

Anyone else have a dyno reading ? Stock or modified, just to get an idea
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:20 AM   #202
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I'm yet to see someone inflict more abuse to a motorcycle than you do. And somehow it is still alive? We should have a contest here for who has the most abused Dakar. So far you get my vote. And it proves the machine is strong enough.

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Are you kidding me ??

I may have used it but I haven't abused it.

dot - dot - dot

Ok, maybe I have abused it a little bit. Sometimes more than other times. Alot infact at times. It's actually a marvel that I'm functioning physically close to 95% !

I wouldn't say it's abuse in that picture you quoted. It's just dirty after riding in sludge (the way the roads in that part of the world get when it raining). That stuff was really hard to get off though. Was almost like someone had sprayed concrete on it. So in that sense you may call it abuse....crap, I'm a bad owner aren't I ?!
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:22 AM   #203
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OK. Two things.
One it appears you do the maintenance, despite the uh... strong use you inflict on the poor bike.
Two, well, these bikes were designed to be ridden hard and somehow people tend to say F650GS's are the girls version of a BMW GS. So you show them what the 650 GS is all about. And not that girls can't ride hard either, but you get the gist when people say that.
OK, three not two things. So, three, I'm following your story with interest. It is making me keep my Dakar.
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Are you kidding me ??

I may have used it but I haven't abused it.

dot - dot - dot

Ok, maybe I have abused it a little bit. Sometimes more than other times. Alot infact at times. It's actually a marvel that I'm functioning physically close to 95% !

I wouldn't say it's abuse in that picture you quoted. It's just dirty after riding in sludge (the way the roads in that part of the world get when it raining). That stuff was really hard to get off though. Was almost like someone had sprayed concrete on it. So in that sense you may call it abuse....crap, I'm a bad owner aren't I ?!
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:32 AM   #204
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I don't think you've abused it. Your posts make me very happy except for the bush bees. What the hell is on your seat though? It looks like a whole freakin' sheep!

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Are you kidding me ??

I may have used it but I haven't abused it.

dot - dot - dot

Ok, maybe I have abused it a little bit. Sometimes more than other times. Alot infact at times. It's actually a marvel that I'm functioning physically close to 95% !

I wouldn't say it's abuse in that picture you quoted. It's just dirty after riding in sludge (the way the roads in that part of the world get when it raining). That stuff was really hard to get off though. Was almost like someone had sprayed concrete on it. So in that sense you may call it abuse....crap, I'm a bad owner aren't I ?!
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:00 PM   #205
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Wonder if one of you Dakar owners would mind measuring the dimension of your "DAKAR" logo on the side of the tank/fairing for me. Just need to know how tall and long it is so I can get a similiar set made up for my bike! Thanks guys!
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:14 PM   #206
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60mm tall, 135 long, that is just the "Dakar" logo, including the Tuareg figure it's 115mm tall.
Just thought that's probably not the one you mean.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:25 AM   #207
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Wonder if one of you Dakar owners would mind measuring the dimension of your "DAKAR" logo on the side of the tank/fairing for me. Just need to know how tall and long it is so I can get a similiar set made up for my bike! Thanks guys!
I think Touratech sells them.... and BMW ought to. Check there first - might be cheaper than making your own.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:33 AM   #208
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I think Touratech sells them.... and BMW ought to. Check there first - might be cheaper than making your own.
BMW retail price is about 68 bucks for that sticker! ONE of them.
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OK. Two things.
One it appears you do the maintenance, despite the uh... strong use you inflict on the poor bike.
Two, well, these bikes were designed to be ridden hard and somehow people tend to say F650GS's are the girls version of a BMW GS. So you show them what the 650 GS is all about. And not that girls can't ride hard either, but you get the gist when people say that.
OK, three not two things. So, three, I'm following your story with interest. It is making me keep my Dakar.
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I'm actually really embarrassed about the level of maintanance I put in. Apart from the 600mi/1000km service it's never been in the shop for a service. I've had it in to replace the waterpump and all the bearings in the rear wheel and sprocket carrier because I don't have the tools or know how to do that myself. The valves was checked at 20.000 kms (within) and 50.000 kms (slightly outside on the intake side). I change the oil and filters each year and aswell as brake fluid. Chain probably doesn't get the care it deserves (which is why I'm adding a centerstand this summer). And I change fork oil sometimes
I hose it down when it's dirty, but I've never waxed it.

I had no problems riding around Australia with full luggage on it. Sometimes I'd wish I had a few more horses and lower rpm at highway speed, but you'd be hard pressed to take a 1200GS to places I go.

I'd be the first to admit that the bike has short comings, but so do all bikes. For what it is it's probably the best bike out there (IMO). I've changed alot of things
Stock headlight is to weak
Stock fork springs are too soft
TT rally footpegs really makes a huge difference when riding standing up
Stock gearing is very inbetween. To high for highways and too low for slow stuff.
Stock mudguard is more for show than anything else.

That being said I have HUGE plans this summer
Rebuil fork to cartrige at suspension specialist
Öhlins rear shock
Aswell as a few bits and pieces from TT and Trailtech
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:00 AM   #210
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I don't think you've abused it. Your posts make me very happy except for the bush bees. What the hell is on your seat though? It looks like a whole freakin' sheep!
I'd never heard of bush-bees (don't think the Lonely Planet people venture outside AC cars and hotels much....

Those bees are pretty funny in retrospect. The way they hang on and refuse to let go is marvelous.

On the seat I have my good friend sheep skin. Bought it in Queen Victoria Marked (Melbourne) a couple of days before the trip started and was meant as both added padding to the seat aswell as an extra matress in the tent at night as I only carry a thin thermarest. It didn't take long before I cut it in half and discarded the other piece. I keep it on with a flat ROC strap in the front and a round bungie in the rear. It keeps my ass nice and comfy all day (whereas the stock seat gives me bum butt within 2 hours). It's also incredibly good insulation; it keeps you cool in summer and warm in spring/fall (we get 1m of snow here in winter so I don't ride). I really don't care if people stare or comment on it.

I'm proud of my bike !



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