The 650 Dakar Thread - Page 153

-mek- · 05-16-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt. REDBEARD

so is your buddy still selling these?

I just tweaked mine last weekend:

Not anymore, and I think it's not wise to send these outside Finland, due the expensive postal fees. I just put it here to give ideas.

PM me your email so I can send the CAD-drawings, done by Vertex, so you can let some laser-/plasma cutting firm to cut the pieces for you. Bending and welding you can do yourself.

Gravel Seeker · 05-17-2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by -mek-

............ Bending and welding you can do yourself.

Yeah sure, it's easy as.....

- What's that ?
- You don't have a professional workshop at home you say ?

HansGruber · 05-17-2010, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravel Seeker

Yeah sure, it's easy as.....

- What's that ?
- You don't have a professional workshop at home you say ?

I can handle the fab, what sort of CAD part are you guys talking about?

HansGruber · 05-17-2010, 05:54 AM

I just ordered the IMS part from Motorcycle Superstore. I hate that company.
Still thinking about the brake. Have to find out who my local TT distro is.

Southernmost_Paul · 05-17-2010, 06:06 AM

Buddy of mine has a 2003 Dakar with approx 26,000 miles. He noticed water in the oil and had a local bike shop change the head gasket. Rode it after picking it up and water in the oil again. I'm not sure if they actually saw anything with the head gasket or just assumed that was the issue.

Any ideas? We are like 200 miles from a dealer here in the Keys so getting it to factory trained tech is out of the question at this point. I ask in case there is a known issues say - water pump seal or such.

My friend is 76 years old doesn't own a computer. Might be parting out a bike if we can't figure this one out asap.

Thanks.

-N8- · 05-17-2010, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Southernmost_Paul

Buddy of mine has a 2003 Dakar with approx 26,000 miles. He noticed water in the oil and had a local bike shop change the head gasket. Rode it after picking it up and water in the oil again. I'm not sure if they actually saw anything with the head gasket or just assumed that was the issue.

Any ideas? We are like 200 miles from a dealer here in the Keys so getting it to factory trained tech is out of the question at this point. I ask in case there is a known issues say - water pump seal or such.

My friend is 76 years old doesn't own a computer. Might be parting out a bike if we can't figure this one out asap.

Thanks.

Hold up on parting out just yet!!

Its the water pump seal. Know issue, easy fix. Or find a different mechanic, one that would know a head gasket has nothing to do with the cooling system
http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/Water_Pump_...r%20Proceedure

-N8- · 05-17-2010, 06:26 AM

The IMS is the way to go. Down to earth price too.

Southernmost_Paul · 05-17-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by -N8-

Hold up on parting out just yet!!

Its the water pump seal. Know issue, easy fix. Or find a different mechanic, one that would know a head gasket has nothing to do with the cooling system
http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/Water_Pump_...r%20Proceedure

Many Thanks! I'll pass the info on. I thought I recalled something about that. I had searched but search "oil" on this site at your own risk.

paul

Gravel Seeker · 05-17-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by -N8-

Hold up on parting out just yet!!

Its the water pump seal. Know issue, easy fix. Or find a different mechanic, one that would know a head gasket has nothing to do with the cooling system
http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/Water_Pump_...r%20Proceedure

nothing to do with the cooling system ?
Uhhh.....it keeps coolant out of the cylinder and oil out of the cooling system, so I'd say it's got something to do with the cooling system.

What kind of water in the oil are we talking about here ? Condensation in the top tank isn't the same as coolant in the oil per say....

Southernmost_Paul · 05-17-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravel Seeker

nothing to do with the cooling system ?
Uhhh.....it keeps coolant out of the cylinder and oil out of the cooling system, so I'd say it's got something to do with the cooling system.

What kind of water in the oil are we talking about here ? Condensation in the top tank isn't the same as coolant in the oil per say....

Does appear to be the water pump seal. He's got our local wrench working on it now. Thanks.

-N8- · 05-17-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravel Seeker

nothing to do with the cooling system ?
Uhhh.....it keeps coolant out of the cylinder and oil out of the cooling system, so I'd say it's got something to do with the cooling system.

What kind of water in the oil are we talking about here ? Condensation in the top tank isn't the same as coolant in the oil per say....

Excuse me, I was thinking he meant the valve cover gasket for some reason.

Capt. REDBEARD · 05-17-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HansGruber

I can handle the fab, what sort of CAD part are you guys talking about?

We are talking about a new set of foot pegs that relocate them down and back - if you are interested in fabricating something up I would be interested in paying for such services - and I am sure we could get a few more folks who were interested as well depending on price..............

pm me if you are serious about making some pegs - I will work as the go between on CAD drawings and orders and that stuff if you want.

cheers!

HansGruber · 05-18-2010, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt. REDBEARD

We are talking about a new set of foot pegs that relocate them down and back - if you are interested in fabricating something up I would be interested in paying for such services - and I am sure we could get a few more folks who were interested as well depending on price..............

pm me if you are serious about making some pegs - I will work as the go between on CAD drawings and orders and that stuff if you want.

cheers!

Sorry, can't really do any production work. I don't have my own shop, I just work in one. My employer would blow a gasket.

HansGruber · 05-18-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Southernmost_Paul

Does appear to be the water pump seal. He's got our local wrench working on it now. Thanks.

I get a little mayo in my oil tank all the time. I was operating under the assumption that it was just condensation entering from the breather. My commute is short (4 miles). Seems like just enough time to create an emulsion but not enough time to burn the water out.

Is this a safe assumption or should I be worried also?

andyhb · 05-18-2010, 06:13 AM

Looking at cutting the snorkel on my twin spark Dakar, checked out the posts on chain gang, but was wondering if anyone on here has done it, and is it worth doing? I am in Perth, Australia so mainly dusty conditions, although it does rain now and again!

05-17-2010, 06:06 AM	#2285
Southernmost_Paul Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2007 Location: MM 21 OverSeas Hwy Florida Keys Oddometer: 313	Water in the oil... Buddy of mine has a 2003 Dakar with approx 26,000 miles. He noticed water in the oil and had a local bike shop change the head gasket. Rode it after picking it up and water in the oil again. I'm not sure if they actually saw anything with the head gasket or just assumed that was the issue. Any ideas? We are like 200 miles from a dealer here in the Keys so getting it to factory trained tech is out of the question at this point. I ask in case there is a known issues say - water pump seal or such. My friend is 76 years old doesn't own a computer. Might be parting out a bike if we can't figure this one out asap. Thanks.

05-17-2010, 06:26 AM	#2287
-N8- Ride like you stole it!! Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Marietta, GA Oddometer: 122	The IMS is the way to go. Down to earth price too. __________________ 2006 BMW F650GS Dakar The More moving parts...the safer I feel!!

05-18-2010, 06:13 AM	#2295
andyhb Adventurer Joined: Mar 2010 Location: Perth Oddometer: 74	Snorkel mod's Looking at cutting the snorkel on my twin spark Dakar, checked out the posts on chain gang, but was wondering if anyone on here has done it, and is it worth doing? I am in Perth, Australia so mainly dusty conditions, although it does rain now and again! __________________ Gas Gas 280 Factory Racing

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05-17-2010, 05:54 AM	#2284
HansGruber Custom User Title Joined: Oct 2009 Location: The GPS batteries are dead Oddometer: 53	I just ordered the IMS part from Motorcycle Superstore. I hate that company. Still thinking about the brake. Have to find out who my local TT distro is.