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Old 02-23-2013, 01:34 AM   #10036
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The Pegaso front disc is 300 mm as per the GS, mounting holes etc are the same, bolt heads are recessed though
Caliper is the same Brembo as the GS withe the same mount. I have an ebay pic showing the part No etc

The front forks you linked to should slide in but dependant on sub model they came from may be only 140 mm travel

On the rear it looks like there are variations between year models with the later Pegaso swapping sides for chain drive when they moved to the Yamaha engine. It looks like there are differences in the Cush Drive on the earlier Pegaso so it would mean a Sprocket holed and wheel change if it was possible. This looks a bit more iffy than the front
Ok, thought some might benefit from another fork replacement option, but with travel that short it's not going to work.
On the rear I've obtained a BMW wheel so that won't be an issue for me, but good info for others.
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:41 AM   #10037
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The Trail Variant has conventional forks, later one's are 45 mm, piston rod and 175 mm travel. They look like a good replacement for GS owners rather than the Dakar. Could be fitted with intiminators to improve them. Hopefully getting some measurements off one to confirm
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:06 PM   #10038
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That was helpful.

Everything is back together. Those springs were tough.

Oh, and I installed a Hockey Puck on the bottom of the foot. The lean angle is a bit better. Still could use a longer sidestand.

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Old 02-24-2013, 01:34 AM   #10039
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The Pegaso front disc is 300 mm as per the GS, mounting holes etc are the same, bolt heads are recessed though
Caliper is the same Brembo as the GS withe the same mount. I have an ebay pic showing the part No etc
I'm confused

Isn't the 19" GS and 21" Dakar identical except for the diameter of the rim and lenght of the spokes ?

When looking for brake pads I get very confusing hits...

Are the 19" and 21" brake discs/ rotors and pads the same ?
Any variation between years ?

Ex
19" Front 99-03
21" Front 04-09

But then I come across these
Front 93-08
Another front 93-08
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:49 AM   #10040
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Yes, Wheel all the same other than rims and spokes. Caliper, disk pad's same

I would not trust the info from fleabay sellers. Many simply specify the parts separately as per the BMW model but they are the same

EBC and here on Oz Metalgear are reliable on info. See details on disc below

http://metalgear.com.au/mgear-brake-...ht-p-5776.html

On Metalgear they give you all the spec on mounting details etc and if a part is common to many makes/models it will be the same part No

Another good ploy (works even better on KTM Fiche) is to use the part search on realoem, it then tells you what models a part is fitted to. I use it to see if sensors etc are used on the cars. Turns up interesting things at times
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:33 AM   #10041
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Yes, Wheel all the same other than rims and spokes. Caliper, disk pad's same

I would not trust the info from fleabay sellers. Many simply specify the parts separately as per the BMW model but they are the same

EBC and here on Oz Metalgear are reliable on info. See details on disc below

http://metalgear.com.au/mgear-brake-...ht-p-5776.html

On Metalgear they give you all the spec on mounting details etc and if a part is common to many makes/models it will be the same part No

Another good ploy (works even better on KTM Fiche) is to use the part search on realoem, it then tells you what models a part is fitted to. I use it to see if sensors etc are used on the cars. Turns up interesting things at times
That's fucking genius
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:38 AM   #10042
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The Pegaso front disc is 300 mm as per the GS, mounting holes etc are the same, bolt heads are recessed though
The recessed/ counterbored bolt holes in the disc doesn't really make a difference, right ?
I reckon I can buy Pegaso discs and just add washers to my OEM bolts or get hold of 12 (2x6) bolts with recessed heads ?
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:22 AM   #10043
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The recessed holes may prevent fitting the ABS ring, that is all I can think of and I suspect I can hear you say I dont need or have any F...ING ABS crap

As for genius, no just Ozzy, you been there, know what I mean, now where is a red dust puddle to roll round in
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:28 AM   #10044
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You're right, I don't ahve ABS, but not because I don't need that fucking crap - my bike's too old. They didn't offer ABS in 2001, but I believe it cames as standard from 2002 or 03 over here.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:34 AM   #10045
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There are 3 variations on the ABS, the first 2 for the 650GS are regarded as crap by some because you have to stop to turn it on/off. They even have different wiring harnesses on these first 2 so it cant be retrofitted as far as I know, my 2002 is like yours, no ABS and hey stepping the rear out when you make a mistake is all part of the fun isnt it ?
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:05 AM   #10046
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You're right, I don't ahve ABS, but not because I don't need that fucking crap - my bike's too old. They didn't offer ABS in 2001, but I believe it cames as standard from 2002 or 03 over here.




The first 2 production years of the Dakar didn't have ABS, that's right, but the normal F650GS had the ABS Option available right away.
And the ABS has always been optional, but later on it was so cheap that only a very few people bought the bikes without it.




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Old 02-25-2013, 08:58 PM   #10047
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wiring harness repair

So I shorted out my harness and it melted at the connection to my ABS unit. I'm looking at removing the abs and replacing the harness with a new one. The bms-c losks in good shape to the naked eye with no damage to the plug. I removed the cover plate and as far as i can tell, the circuit board looks clean and in good shape.

I am wondering, does anyone have any advice on how difficult it is to replace the harness?

Removing the abs seems straightforward as long as I get a non-abs harness.

Tips, thoughts? Am I crazy to attempt this?
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:02 PM   #10048
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Well it is a bit of work, out of interest what exactly do you mean by "I shorted out my harness" ?
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:22 PM   #10049
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wiring harness repair

It means someone wasn't paying attention doing a jump start and clipped the negative cable to the wrong bolt on the bike and shorted it out; melted some leads to the battery and the plug to the abs sensor.

The bike ran after the incident, but suspecting things were not right, I dug a bit deeper and found the abs plug was melted along with the negative battery cable. All the diodes and fuses were okay.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:37 PM   #10050
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That will likely mean it is only the wiring bundle between the electrical box around the RHS which splits and goes to ABS/BMS and the starter motor is damaged, you could probably unwrap that section of the harness, repair and recover without complete harness replacement. Post up the pic's we love destruction, promise we wont be too hard on the comments

Would be worth unwrapping to look at what was carrying the current and which wires had insulation melted as a result.

There is a thread on advrider by Dwayne describing unwrapping that section to relocate his battery to under the seat it may help you

If you do attempt it it would be worth rewrapping the harness with the main power leads in a separate bundle
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