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Old 04-28-2013, 02:41 AM   #10501
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WPoll, you know the firmware in yours is dodgy, bite the bullet and sort it, the later firmware will restart properly in that stall situation
If only. No local dealer (in the entire island!), original injector and no idea what exact version of firmware I have anyway.

Must build myself a code reader.... Need to fix my water pump (again) first.

It's fine, most of the time. Just have to play by the rules. And if it gets to the point where I'm riding my Dakar like its a YZ, it's time to get a YZ!!

If I DO stall it (by doing something dumb) and it' not a good time or place to stop, I certainly DO just thumb it and keep rolling. But it backfires badly on the overrun until I park it for a few seconds etc. Not a big deal.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:14 AM   #10502
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Just a quick question guys,
I've got an 07 dakar, and its the first bike ive had that has had efi.
When the ABS is off, and you lock up the rear brake, the engine stalls (while the wheel isnt turning of course) but when the brake is released the engine does not restart and requires the clutch pulled in and the starter button used to get the engine started again. Is this normal with this bike and is it normal for all efi bikes? Its a major pita.
I frequently locked up the rear off road (with the clutch in of course) and the bike never stalled. When I did have to drag the tail in a tight spot and forgot to clutch I never had a problems restarting on the fly. No stopping, usually just rolled on and popped the clutch in second to restart the engine. Mine was also an 07 GSPD. If you are in gear you will have to clutch in to start the bike using the starter unless you have momentum and are bumping it in second.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:27 AM   #10503
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sounds normal then :)
like i said, this is my first efi bike, im used to trail bikes where locking the back without the clutch in just roll starts right away. i'll try to remember to pull the clutch every time. lol.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:53 AM   #10504
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sounds normal then :)
like i said, this is my first efi bike, im used to trail bikes where locking the back without the clutch in just roll starts right away. i'll try to remember to pull the clutch every time. lol.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:54 AM   #10505
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Some of the early firmware will stall on sudden shut off and in hot dry conditions the later firmware as well, it may be worth checking firmware rev level and while doing so check whether the updated compression release lever is fitted
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:01 AM   #10506
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Just a quick question guys,
I've got an 07 dakar, and its the first bike ive had that has had efi.
When the ABS is off, and you lock up the rear brake, the engine stalls (while the wheel isnt turning of course) but when the brake is released the engine does not restart and requires the clutch pulled in and the starter button used to get the engine started again. Is this normal with this bike and is it normal for all efi bikes? Its a major pita.
Pretty confused by all y'alls answers to this

I've locked and stalled on both gravel and asphalt many times. It just fires right up when I let up the brake . Can't say I've ever had to do anything fancy like pulling the clutch or pushing the starter

I've also bump started it several times when I've run out of battery. Ik now EFI don't like that since the injectore needs power to squirt, but it works.

I've removed the sidestand witch, but that shouldn't really matter.
My firmware is the latest that was available to BMW mechanics in April 2010.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:34 AM   #10507
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What side stand?

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Hey Gravel Seeker... is that a store-bought side stand or homemade? If a manufactured one, do you have the brand and/or source for it?

That setup looks great! And it would allow me to use my trail stand thingie with the Dakar for getting the front or rear wheel off the ground when changing a flat on the road. It simply will not work with the stock side stand due to its angle.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:46 AM   #10508
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Gravelseeker, Nice looking job, will add your pic's to the pdf

It is the angle of the mount coming off the bracket which would be good to add in text as well as how much the stand is shorter compared to a stock stand

The one aspect of the peg mount arrangement which is of concern is the stand down stop lug seems so far out to the side and further down, it seems as if it would cause an injury in a fall if it came down on your leg

Your pegs are mounted well back, how far back do you estimate they are ? It looks like the TT mount then the pegs themselves seem raised and moved further back, looks around 70 mm back and 10-20 mm higher in the pics
I'll get some measurments
  • Lenght vs OEM
  • Lean angle vs OEM
  • Forward angle

As you can see it quite a bit shorter than the OEM, but the forward lean angle is very similar to stock





They are just standard TT rally pegs and brackets (bought in 2003 or so. TT may have changed them - I really wouldn't know).

Just welded on the bracket that came with the eBay sidestand.
Ground a little off both stops so that it would go a little further.

I did do some crude guestimates with a piece of 2 by 4 and decided the lug wouldn't scrape when turning left. I rode to work on friday and it never scraped, but the local roads and then the higway isn't too challenging so I've yet to know 100%.
Safety never even crossed my mind I always wear motocross boots so I reckon I'll be ok.
But seriously, you'll always have a stop lug, so the only way I see to prevent it sticking out like mine does is to
1. Add the stop to the sidestand, sort of like the OEM has (it has half the stop on the stand and half the stop on the bracket.
2. Have a larger, "softer" lug, something like this poor mans CAD illustration so vividly explains

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Old 04-28-2013, 07:10 AM   #10509
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Hey Gravel Seeker... is that a store-bought side stand or homemade? If a manufactured one, do you have the brand and/or source for it?

That setup looks great! And it would allow me to use my trail stand thingie with the Dakar for getting the front or rear wheel off the ground when changing a flat on the road. It simply will not work with the stock side stand due to its angle.
Both.
I bought a no brand universal endure stand off eBay and had a local metal workshop weld it on. Then handed it over to a local painter for sandblasting and powdercoat.

Here's the experiementation and build
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10272
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10400
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:36 AM   #10510
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Both.
I bought a no brand universal endure stand off eBay and had a local metal workshop weld it on. Then handed it over to a local painter for sandblasting and powdercoat.

Here's the experiementation and build
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10272
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10400
Thanks!
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:13 AM   #10511
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Busy developing new footpeg brackets with footpegs moved further back.
The intitial idea was 100mm. However when looking at it, it looks too far back



pdf

Some feedback please. Where would the best place be?
When I look at photo of the TT brackets they look to be 60mm

And would anybody be interested if I made extra?
Did this mod about three years ago. Went back 50mm and up 25mm, Also moved kick stand back and up. Kickstand bracket should never be the lowest part of the undercarriage. It will just get bent or broken.

The right side one is also made to protect the brake cylinder and attachment hardware.



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Old 04-28-2013, 03:51 PM   #10512
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OK. im stumped...
Where is the fuse to the ABS system?

I want to pull the fuse for a offroad trip coming up since my ABS switch is not working. I dont want ABS this weekend haha
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:43 PM   #10513
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low seat

Does anyone have a low seat for a '01 dakar they would be willing to sell?
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:57 PM   #10514
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Stalling issue.

So about a year ago i posted some questions about my Dakar having some intermittent stalling issues:

when holding the clutch in
idling at the lights
lazy gear changes
on every first start

Anyway, finally found the issue. for anyone who might have the same problem.

It was the 'throttle positions sensor'
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:13 PM   #10515
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Thanks for posting that ^^^
How'd you track it down?
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