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Old 05-09-2013, 08:38 PM   #10621
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I'm wanting to lose the possum scraper stock chain guard. Seems like the touratech chain guards break. Any good suggestions for a replacement?
Or I can take the dremel tool to the plastic one on there now or I can go without. Any issue I don't know about if I just take it off?
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:52 PM   #10622
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You can dremel the plastic one, or there was a stainless steel one out of the UK advertised on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chain-guar...item5aeeb9bff6
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:53 PM   #10623
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Seems like the touratech chain guards break.
Orilly? Mine hasn't despite being flogged as recently as about an hour ago. I'm sure it happens...... Mine hasn't.



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Old 05-09-2013, 10:26 PM   #10624
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You can dremel the plastic one, or there was a stainless steel one out of the UK advertised on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chain-guar...item5aeeb9bff6
I'm liking that! Thanks
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:06 AM   #10625
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Chain Guard

Can confirm - the TT chain guards will crack over time, fatigue cracks.

Bought a steel one out of Germany – much more robust but with a weight penalty!

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Chainguard-BM...item48551c9425


For my other Dakar – have just taken the grinder to the possum scrapper – more than does the job and looks neat/ factory.


Here in Australia the local CONsTabulary take a dim view on removing the chain guard and class it as a major defect – I think that it is three demerit points, tow home and $$$$$.

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Old 05-10-2013, 02:05 AM   #10626
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I'm wanting to lose the possum scraper stock chain guard. Seems like the touratech chain guards break. Any good suggestions for a replacement?
Or I can take the dremel tool to the plastic one on there now or I can go without. Any issue I don't know about if I just take it off?
I threw mine away not long after I bought the bike and havent had any problems with it. For that matter, neither my KLR or my DR had chain guards.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:29 AM   #10627
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I'm wanting to lose the possum scraper stock chain guard. Seems like the touratech chain guards break. Any good suggestions for a replacement?
Or I can take the dremel tool to the plastic one on there now or I can go without. Any issue I don't know about if I just take it off?
Dremel the shit out of it or just remove it altogether.
Might run into trouble with the law though as the scraper is there to make the spray angle legal.
If you remove it you should in theory extend the fender/ license plate down to compensate for the spray angle at full extension of the shock, which is why it is easier to have the static scraper on the swing that takes the shock out of the equation

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Old 05-10-2013, 02:43 AM   #10628
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Sertao guard...

Seems like I've read that some are using the Sertao guard on their Dakars, though I've not seen it personally. I just looked and it's like $21 on Max BMW's parts fiche...

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Old 05-10-2013, 03:24 AM   #10629
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Re rego requirements on chain guard in Oz, I wondered and spoke to a blue slip inspector in NSW, He smiled and indicated basically if it is there it is OK, it seems there is some confusion of what is required and to read the precise wording I needed to pay $300+ to buy the ADR which I grumped to the feds about

I understood it needed to go to the most rearward part of the rear sprocket but have seen some new 1000's which dont seem to have a chain guard as such and the swing arm seems to be the guard, one was an MV

I have my own on there but have the BMW one as a rego time item if needed, that Sertao one looks like a low cost option
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:17 AM   #10630
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Re rego requirements on chain guard in Oz, I wondered and spoke to a blue slip inspector in NSW, He smiled and indicated basically if it is there it is OK, it seems there is some confusion of what is required and to read the precise wording I needed to pay $300+ to buy the ADR which I grumped to the feds about

I understood it needed to go to the most rearward part of the rear sprocket but have seen some new 1000's which dont seem to have a chain guard as such and the swing arm seems to be the guard, one was an MV

I have my own on there but have the BMW one as a rego time item if needed, that Sertao one looks like a low cost option

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Extract from Queensland transport

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Sa...motorcycle.pdf

Flexible drive (chain and belt) guards
If the motorcycle has a fl exible drive, the driver and any
passenger must be protected from the front sprocket and
at least the upper part of the fl exible drive by the frame or
equipment of the motorcycle, or by the use of a guard. A guard
must cover the fl exible drive to a point at least 300 mm to the
rear of the rearmost footrest or above the centre of the rear
drive sprocket. Motorcycles must be fi tted with footrests for
the rider, and for any passenger for whom a seating position is
provided.

There another rule about the lenght of the rear guard but can't find it at the moment

It sort of goes like.......The rear wheel will be coverd when a line is projected upward at 45 deg from the rear axle with 20kg's on the seat.........or some rubbish like that.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati.../vsi/vsi28.pdf
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:27 AM   #10631
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Damian, thanks for that, it seems the states are going in their own direction via regulations and not adhering to the ADR's

An easier to read extract is

Flexible drive (chain and belt) guards

If the motorcycle has a flexible drive, the driver and any passenger must be protected from the front sprocket and at least the upper part of the flexible drive by the frame or equipment of the motorcycle, or by the use of a guard. A guard must cover the flexible drive to a point at least 300 mm to the rear of the rearmost footrest or above the centre of the rear drive sprocket. Motorcycles must be fitted with footrests for the rider, and for any passenger for whom a seating position is provided.

My guard easily meets the Qld spec there but in NSW at least it seems it needs to go further to the rear and I heard a vague reference to protection underneath which had me mystified
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:27 AM   #10632
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I'm wanting to lose the possum scraper stock chain guard. Seems like the touratech chain guards break. Any good suggestions for a replacement?
Or I can take the dremel tool to the plastic one on there now or I can go without. Any issue I don't know about if I just take it off?
I came across this article recently:

http://www.truegritgs.com/2013/05/07...s-chain-guard/



BMW OEM Part #01 46 62 7 727 156 G650GS Chain Guard
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:52 AM   #10633
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Rear guard

Found the section in the ADR's

14.3.3.1. Rear „Axle’ and Side-car
The wheel guard provided for the rear wheel and for the wheel of any
side-car must extend not less than from a point vertically above the
foremost part of the wheel rearward to a point not higher than the
intersection of the arc of the wheel guard with a line through the centre
of the wheel at 45 degrees to a horizontal plane through the centre of the
wheel when a mass of 45 kg is distributed in the saddle of the vehicle at its „Unladen Mass’.

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2011C00102/Download
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:04 AM   #10634
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Seems like I've read that some are using the Sertao guard on their Dakars, though I've not seen it personally. I just looked and it's like $21 on Max BMW's parts fiche...
That's what I did back in 2011 and it works just fine
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:40 AM   #10635
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Thanks! Sertao guard looks good and cheap.

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