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Old 08-20-2013, 10:45 PM   #11371
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Idle Issue

Hello again,
Decided to start over and check everything. I got everything apart and the new plug out and it was pretty filed with virtually no gap between electrodes. A sign of a bigger issue, not sure? Anyway, I saw on youtube a guy installed a NGK Iridium plug, maybe that will help? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Really like that name "Gravel Seeker."
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:34 AM   #11372
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Hello again,
Decided to start over and check everything. I got everything apart and the new plug out and it was pretty filed with virtually no gap between electrodes. A sign of a bigger issue, not sure? Anyway, I saw on youtube a guy installed a NGK Iridium plug, maybe that will help? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Really like that name "Gravel Seeker."


Try opening the gap on the plug. Don't have the data sheet here, but it's supposed to be a few mm's. Also suggest you install the old plug to see if that fixes the problem (unless you've already tossed it).

No doubt iridium plugs fix surging and stalling problems. But the stalling issues, as far as I know, would be when down shifting and finally coming to a stop at a red light for instance and the engine dies when you pull the clutch. I've not had that happen myself so I'm not going to comment further. I had surging issues at constant rpm, ca 3750 and the iridium plug fixed that.

I've had the exact same issues you describe and for me it was one of two (fixed both at the same time) loose plug cap and the rubber dust seal on the throttle cable had moved on the wire and got trapped on the throttle body causing the throttle to be open 2-3mm even when it looked shut at the handlebar.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:42 AM   #11373
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Hello again,
Decided to start over and check everything. I got everything apart and the new plug out and it was pretty filed with virtually no gap between electrodes. A sign of a bigger issue, not sure?
do you follow the correct starting procedure? http://faq.f650.com/GSFAQs/HardStart...ng%20Procedure
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:20 PM   #11374
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Home made headlight cover

Hey all,has anyone made their own headlight cover,like just fabbed up some brackets and cut some plexiglass?or somethin fancier.Trying to save as much cash for my RTW trip so im making all the bikes mods myself.thx
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:29 PM   #11375
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Thanks for the link.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:01 AM   #11376
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That info in the F650 FAQ is a bit out of date and the references to the firmware versions are not correct. The claim of not checking the idle actuator is also dubious, even the manual for the latest models say dont touch the throttle

It all confused me so I put both Bike boys tech explanation and BMW owner instructions in the pdf's on the page below

http://www.f650gs.crossroadz.com.au/TipsAndTricks.html
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:52 AM   #11377
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Hey all,has anyone made their own headlight cover,like just fabbed up some brackets and cut some plexiglass?or somethin fancier.Trying to save as much cash for my RTW trip so im making all the bikes mods myself.thx
Considered just running protective film instead ?
A couple of friends of mine have used it. It got pretty faded over time, but if you carry two - three it ought to be enough. The ones my buddies used was a few mm thick, guessing 2-3mm, like the one in the Amazon link below. They bough it in a motorcycle store though and not online so I'm not sure what brand and such.

http://www.lamin-x.com/BMW-F-G-Serie...kes-s/1075.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Rshield-Headli.../dp/B0058NVUOE

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/clear-headlight-protection-film
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:58 AM   #11378
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Well I have made a tough decision. I think I am going to sell my 2001 Dakar. 8K miles, C Bailey screen, Renazco seat, Rox risers, Good nobbies, Engine guards, tail rack, original bags. I just love my Stelvio and I thought I might keep the Dakar for the dirty stuff but in reality it doesn't accomplish that so much so my plan is to pick up a new Honda CRF250L...something easy and light to ride on the single tracks, nothing heavy, mainly something to go fishing with with my son who is back to a DRZ400.

So where and what is the best way to get this bike sold? I will be straight up...it is highly doubtful there is a better 2001 Dakar out there with this low mileage. It runs without a hiccup on regular gas so the fuel injection issue never was on this bike. I have one local young man who has been drooling for a long time on this bike. I say 6K$ and you walk away a happy camper.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:33 PM   #11379
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Thx Gravel Seeker,kinda looking for something more robust tho
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:52 PM   #11380
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Thx Gravel Seeker,kinda looking for something more robust tho
Sure. Doubt you'll ever have a need for it though..... it' won't help much in a crash and I've been caught behind other riders between the wheel tracks many times and while you duck down to avoid the spray of rocks and pebbles I've never had any damage to the headlight (even before I replaced it with after marked headlights)
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:24 AM   #11381
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Well this sucks........guess a random "universal enduro sidestand" off eBay won't take the weight of a Dakar

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Old 08-27-2013, 06:19 PM   #11382
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Well I have made a tough decision. I think I am going to sell my 2001 Dakar. 8K miles, C Bailey screen, Renazco seat, Rox risers, Good nobbies, Engine guards, tail rack, original bags. I just love my Stelvio and I thought I might keep the Dakar for the dirty stuff but in reality it doesn't accomplish that so much so my plan is to pick up a new Honda CRF250L...something easy and light to ride on the single tracks, nothing heavy, mainly something to go fishing with with my son who is back to a DRZ400.

So where and what is the best way to get this bike sold? I will be straight up...it is highly doubtful there is a better 2001 Dakar out there with this low mileage. It runs without a hiccup on regular gas so the fuel injection issue never was on this bike. I have one local young man who has been drooling for a long time on this bike. I say 6K$ and you walk away a happy camper.
eBay, Craigslist, IBMW, and here; although $6K might seem a bit steep. Bikes 2001-2003 have been selling $4500-$5500 w/ kit- suspension ( just saying).
Best bet is to sell add-ons separate as you'll never recoup the cost otherwise. The bike is what has value. Everything else is personal choice. Good luck!
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:25 PM   #11383
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Well this sucks........guess a random "universal enduro sidestand" off eBay won't take the weight of a Dakar

you can cut it open and stick a solid rod in there where it bent and see if it holds.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:11 PM   #11384
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you can cut it open and stick a solid rod in there where it bent and see if it holds.
Yeah....Been thinking of how to (get someone) to fix it and I also thought about that.
Other two option I came up with was to weld a slightly larger pipe on the outside or just a brace/ strip of steel across where it bent (after it's straightened)
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:27 PM   #11385
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Electrical gremlin, bad connection, dying battery or dying stator ?

Electrical gremlin, bad connection, dying battery or dying stator ?

Symptom is fairly similar all the time, but happens more often when it's cooler

Cold weather start (morning ~ 2-8C)
Warm weather start (afternoon ~18-22C)
50/50 chance of starter dying/ lost connection from the starter button.

Bad connection ?
My initial feeling is that it's just a bad/ worn out connection behind the starter button. Sort of like I press the button in and it's at an angle so the metal bits inside don't touch properly or "slide" off each other.

Dying battery ?
But I also got the same sort of symptom when the OEM acid battery died. Sorta wasn't enough juice to fire. Now though, it always fires on the second try after initially acting up. My current gel battery isn't as sharp as it was when new, but it still holds a charge. Gel battery is probably from 2008.

Dying stator ?
My TT IMO computer tells me the bike is charging about 14,1-14,3. It used to be 14,2-14,3, mostly 14,3 (the IMO steals 1V so the reading is actuallly 13,X - it's always been like that - shows a volt more with a multimetre).

My right hand engine cover has starting showing bubbles in the paint. After WayneC1 asked about the stator and stator overheating issues I'm assuming that is what has caused it. I've not had any warning lights go off on the dash.
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