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Old 01-12-2013, 06:02 AM   #5116
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Are the subframes heat treated after manufacture?
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:29 AM   #5117
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Is it the weak subframe or crap setup suspensions ( shim stack ) that cracks the subframe ?

Corrigations ? what corrigations
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:19 PM   #5118
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My understanding is that the weld is just to hold the block in place, not to take weight. The weight is on the holes in the square tube pulling the subframe towards the front of the bike. The block is more to keep the tube in shape when bolted tight. I had the weld break on my previous pig, but it never got any worse, the block just rattled in the tube when loose, but otherwise it still did its job In my opinion.
so what you are saying is the block is superficial and the entire subframe is hanging from 2 bits of 1.5mm alley tube about 10mm long?
on that left hand mount, it is threaded. so the load goes straight to the solid bar and then transfered to the tube through the weld. nearly all the beaks i have seen have been from slightly different variations of this.
i think will hit it on the head
not a expert


strenthen mounting points ,simple eh
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:51 PM   #5119
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iam not the one spending 6000 bucks on some wank steel replacement one
its 4000 bucks and its my dick so i'll wash it as hard and fast as i can
looks like me and smithy will be the only 1's on this trip

poppy will do his magic and im sure he will fix the sub up on the xrr's ... i just like the idea of steal to weld to if need be

where did nettys snap?

is it due to incorrect load placement stock suspesion and to much load at the rear

changeing out the the top bolt with a bit longer and a lock nut on the other side

Growely has his sub mods he done few pages back .....they carried alot of weight

smithy seems to carry alot of gear and worked out for him ....

all posted pages back in this thread ......drop a few kg's of the rider wouldnt go astray

are we there yet
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:59 PM   #5120
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Is it the weak subframe or crap setup suspensions ( shim stack ) that cracks the subframe ?

Corrigations ? what corrigations
Its a piss weak subframe for carring a load. No suspension(shim stack) is going to counteract vibration, oscillation, laterall movement on a loaded bike. For racing or just trail riding unloaded, non issue and a totally different kettle of fish. Suspension works in a single plane, not a 4 dimensional axis.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:01 PM   #5121
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its 4000 bucks and its my dick so i'll wash it as hard and fast as i can
looks like me and smithy will be the only 1's on this trip i doubt it

poppy will do his magic and im sure he will fix the sub up on the xrr's ... i just like the idea of steal to weld to if need be. yeh me too, is there much to do to make those steel ones work?

where did nettys snap?

is it due to incorrect load placement stock suspesion and to much load at the rear they are pretty ordinary to start with

changeing out the the top bolt with a bit longer and a lock nut on the other side that is a temporary fix

Growely has his sub mods he done few pages back .....they carried alot of weight

smithy seems to carry alot of gear and worked out for him ....think you will find he snapped one of the legs last time

all posted pages back in this thread ......drop a few kg's of the rider wouldnt go astray get fucked

are we there yet
getting closer
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:01 PM   #5122
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you making a rack for yours poppy ..beefing up the stock sub or making a new 1

keen to hear your idea's ...
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:06 PM   #5123
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easy to get those steal subs to work ...take it down the the fence builder and get him to fit it


did he break the sub or the rack .. ..who rides with 2x20ltr jerrys on the back of and xrr

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Old 01-12-2013, 03:18 PM   #5124
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you making a rack for yours poppy ..beefing up the stock sub or making a new 1

keen to hear your idea's ...
When is your steel one arriving?

Mate personally i like the idea of steel, mainly because if there is a need to repair it, chances are we would be able to have a helpful property owner loan us a stick welder, maybe even a mig to do repairs. Not many have ali migs or tig welders set up kicking around. The standard subframe can be made stronger though and there are people that carry a lot on them.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:22 PM   #5125
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Its a piss weak subframe for carring a load. No suspension(shim stack) is going to counteract vibration, oscillation, laterall movement on a loaded bike. For racing or just trail riding unloaded, non issue and a totally different kettle of fish. Suspension works in a single plane, not a 4 dimensional axis.
Ok,
Just saying what i experienced with mine that all.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:24 PM   #5126
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easy to get those steal subs to work ...take it down the the fence builder and get him to fit it
hope he doesn't have much to do between now and the end of July. will prolly take him that long to make em work
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:30 PM   #5127
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plan was to order at the end of jan

all self ordered with a discount code for our group buy .....i recon its the way to go ....few tweaks need to be done for fitment but im sure it aint to hard .....

like you said beefing up the stock frame aint gunna solve the sideways flex ..hence steal
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:30 PM   #5128
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Will depend if you want it polished or painted!
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:32 PM   #5129
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plan was to order at the end of jan

all self ordered with a discount code for our group buy .....i recon its the way to go ....few tweaks need to be done for fitment but im sure it aint to hard .....

like you said beefing up the stock frame aint gunna solve the sideways flex ..hence steal
ha ha, i haven't told you what the fix plan is yet
how much did you get em for on a group buy?
sounds like you might need to take ya swag to the shop mate, few late nights comming up
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:44 PM   #5130
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ha ha, i haven't told you what the fix plan is yet
how much did you get em for on a group buy?
sounds like you might need to take ya swag to the shop mate, few late nights comming up
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