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Old 12-30-2009, 09:38 PM   #61
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What do you mean by set up right?

Mates got one, bought it with 10k on it, couldnt start it (the guy he bought it off had no problem), uncorked it, put a carby kit through it and still cant start the damn thing without 20 goes at it

Spend half our day waiting for him to start the bastard.
Got to the point no one want to ride with him

Any tips I can on setup and kicking give him? (apart from sell it)
Gently kick through to TDC, then bring starter back to the top, and gently roll past TDC.

Use no throttle and jump on it. I only weigh 62kgs and haven't had a problem kicking 600 & 650's with this method.

Check where the idle screw is. Sometimes, with cold weather I increased the idle rate which can aid in starting. When hot start required, use same method, but before rolling past TDC, open the throttle completely, then don't touch it.
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Old 01-01-2010, 12:08 AM   #62
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Thanks for the info guys, Ill have to remember that for next time Im sitting there waiting

Anything special to do after shes been down on her side or just follow the same sequence?
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Old 01-01-2010, 04:34 AM   #63
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TEKNIK in my opinion have the most experience with the 650R suspension,
talk to nick and ask about the safari setup.
Standard suspension the high speed valving is to stiff to over come the springs that are rated for a 75kg rider.

The noise coming out of the motor is the gears from the crank to the gear box, back lash noise.
Nothing to worry about, its just has a big solid gear box.

MSC make a rally clamp with damper, that moves the bars up about an inch and forward about an inch and a half.
RC bend bars i found the best for me, i think there the highest bars out there except for ATV bars.
The cables will be long enough,
just reroute them behind the top clamp.

If you drop it and its hot there a pig to start,
what happens is they get fuel vaporisation.
So kick it through a few times with the decomp lever in,
get the air through the carby, then quickly go to the normal starting procedure.

I use outboard grease in the steering head and swingarm bearings.

Yep it got a beautiful motor.

Why Honda don't build another one has got me beat.
a 700 would be nice with that programmable EFI they use and a leccy leg.
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:09 AM   #64
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What do you mean by set up right?

Mates got one, bought it with 10k on it, couldnt start it (the guy he bought it off had no problem), uncorked it, put a carby kit through it and still cant start the damn thing without 20 goes at it

Spend half our day waiting for him to start the bastard.

Any tips I can on setup and kicking give him? (apart from sell it)

if the previous guy kicked it first go, its his technique.

cold, full choke, 1 good kick
goto half choke, another good kick, it'll start. warm it, choke off.
then its a one kick affair after its warm
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:54 PM   #65
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USD forks

Hey Jake i have done the USD swap out.
I put the 05 CRF450 forks on the big XR and put the conventional forks back on the CRf450.
Both bikes are now better where i ride them.
Spose i gotta change my sig now.
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Old 01-02-2010, 02:38 PM   #66
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Hey Jake i have done the USD swap out.
I put the 05 CRF450 forks on the big XR and put the conventional forks back on the CRf450.
Both bikes are now better where i ride them.
Spose i gotta change my sig now.
how about a pic of your beat with usd forks mate
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:57 PM   #67
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Hey Jake i have done the USD swap out.
I put the 05 CRF450 forks on the big XR and put the conventional forks back on the CRf450.
Both bikes are now better where i ride them.
Spose i gotta change my sig now.

sounds like a great swap - me too would like to see pics.

I remember all the bs a few years ago when "those in the know" said USDs would break the frame of the 650R.

Such bullshite.
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:29 PM   #68
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Guys i got issues this end but i did manage to get a few pics from the phone to my email,i can't go any further as it's on the work computer but i could forward pics i think through email and then one of you could post them up for me?
Update have sent the pics to Oziexplorer Dave and he'll post 'em up when he can.
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:39 PM   #69
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Guys i got issues this end but i did manage to get a few pics from the phone to my email,i can't go any further as it's on the work computer but i could forward pics i think through email and then one of you could post them up for me?
Update have sent the pics to Oziexplorer Dave and he'll post 'em up when he can.


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Old 01-05-2010, 06:24 PM   #70
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Dave you are a champion.
THX much.
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:31 PM   #71
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Nice job badcooky, you have done well.
Reckon the next mod would need to be a larger front disc, as that is a lotta motorcycle to pull up!
Another 25 horses and kilos or there abouts than the CRF/X.
My brother is doing a USD conversion on his NX and has required a bit of machining, was yours just a plug in and play conversion, or was there some machine-trickery that needed to be done?
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:36 PM   #72
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Just the usual Mass,swap out steering stems machine down the underside of the top CRF triple 6mm,a sleeve in it as well.
The XR top triple had to be machined out to fit the CRF stem.
Have a closer look Mass i'm running the CRF disc and brakes with a braided line so it stops good.Stoppies no problem.
The conventional fork is now on the CRF and it's wicked in the tight stuff and the big XR out running hard is wicked as well.
I want to do the cr500 shock body swap out now so it's the real deal all the way.Got a Ti spring coming for that so less weight and a better action will be cool.
Didya notice that the Xr is in the lounge in the bottom pic,you can see one of me big screen TV's in the background there's 3 bikes and a quad living in my lounge room dudes.
It's all good all the time.
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:11 AM   #73
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if the previous guy kicked it first go, its his technique.

cold, full choke, 1 good kick
goto half choke, another good kick, it'll start. warm it, choke off.
then its a one kick affair after its warm
Like he said

The most important thing to remember about starting thumpers is....Kick it like a mule. No pansy half arsed kicks. Your kick MUST go right to the bottom of the stroke or you will end up on the moon.
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:07 AM   #74
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The bike I sold

Hey fella's, just thought I'd add my two bobs worth. sold my 650 about 6mths ago, wish I kept it.
Had full staintune system, ported head, hi comp piston, MSC rallye clamp & damper with pro taper wymdam bars, swade seat raised 40mm, Acerbis tank, oversize disc, side cover/air box mods, jetted carb, ran a 47t chaingang, & Teknik did front & rear suspension, removed the spacer in the rear, footpeg extension.
Found that getting it to breath & hi comp piston made a real weapon out of it. Was going to fit a Vortex but found I had plenty of power as was. Flat out at 180km GPS speed check. Suspension was fantastic. Only problem was the stain tune headers ran right up against the radiators.

I'll buy another one at some stage as I have a set of the 42l safari tanks that GHR had on one of their bikes & also a mould for the africa queen front fairing. will build a rallye replica. They are a bloody great bike.
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Old 01-06-2010, 05:39 AM   #75
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Have a closer look Mass i'm running the CRF disc and brakes with a braided line so it stops good.Stoppies no problem.

Didya notice that the Xr is in the lounge in the bottom pic,you can see one of me big screen TV's in the background there's 3 bikes and a quad living in my lounge room dudes.
It's all good all the time.
I run a 640 ADV so pretty much all brake discs look undersized to me
With regard to all the bikes in the lounge room, you're either not married, or you have one hell of an understanding wife - if so, does she have an unmarried sister.....
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