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Old 03-12-2009, 05:40 PM   #1
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Question Steering Stabilizer on KLR?

Has anyone tried mounting a steering stabilizer/damper on a KLR 650 whether a Scotts or other make?
http://www.scottsperformance.com/pho...in.php?ID=1309
http://www.scottsperformance.com/damperinfo.php

If so, what are your thoughts. Would it be better to spend the $400 on front suspension work, stabilizer, both?
Not looking for what people "think" about it or what people have done in lieu of suspension/stabilizer work. ONLY LOOKING FOR ADVICE FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY DONE IT. Thanks,
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Old 03-12-2009, 07:52 PM   #2
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Wondering why... if it's because of high speed wobblies there are a few things to try first (your stem bearings are set correctly).... raise fork oil level to 170mm and 10psi air costs about $10 for the Belray 10wt. After that a fork brace for about $100. Those are the most cost effective, bang for the buck front suspension upgrades out here. Mebby progressive springs like Moab.... better yet get a Moab rear shock.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:25 PM   #3
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Bluhduh Thanks but...

Looking to hear from people who have tried it.
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Old 03-13-2009, 07:15 AM   #4
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Looking to hear from people who have tried it.
I'm guessing you'll be hard pressed to find many........... mostly because the KLR generally doesn't need it. Ok, it just doesn't need it. Look for the most farkeled out gear whore riders and you still won't likely find a $400 scotts on a KLR...........

You answered your question in the first post. First spend the money on the suspension. (applies to almost any bike really) Progressive springs at a minimum on any KLR IMO. If that's not enough gold valves or a fork swap to something good. I've found the progressives to be just fine. Then beef up the rear, I've got the 420 rear now and it's nice even tho I never did manage to kill the stocker............
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:25 AM   #5
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Really???
If you are getting headshake under power or are trying to calm the jolt of rippin through rocks I'd say it's time for you to get a different bike cause you are really really ridding the KLR far over what anyone else ever has. So You would need to answer why do you feel the need for a dampener?

Now that said
I would look at some gold valves or if you can get a set of KLX650 forks or???
The Gold valves have been very good on all of the bikes I have put them on.
That and some correct springs and fresh oil you would be very happy.
However don't forget about the rear shock it is just as important and it can have a huge effect on the front.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:04 AM   #6
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Oh, and headshake under what little power a klr has is most likely a problem. Tire, air pressure, bad bearind in the wheel or headstock, something anything but too much power.............
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:31 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by escuchamente
Has anyone tried mounting a steering stabilizer/damper on a KLR 650 whether a Scotts or other make?
http://www.scottsperformance.com/pho...in.php?ID=1309
http://www.scottsperformance.com/damperinfo.php

If so, what are your thoughts. Would it be better to spend the $400 on front suspension work, stabilizer, both?
Not looking for what people "think" about it or what people have done in lieu of suspension/stabilizer work. ONLY LOOKING FOR ADVICE FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY DONE IT. Thanks,
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I have an idea... Since you have torn into people on TWO different forums why don't you just put one on the bike and tell us how it works or doesn't work. You're not going to find anyone that has done this because most of us KLR owners don't ride our bikes like they're all out dirt bikes because they're not. If they were supposed to be ridden that way they would already have a dampner installed.
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:40 PM   #8
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The folks here are giving you some good advice and I agree with them completely. The KLR will greatly benefit from a suspension upgrade. I had mine pretty well tricked out to suit me at both ends and it was literally a night and day improvement. I have a Scotts on my XR400 and it has helped that bike greatly, but I never installed one on my KLR.

Why?

Because I never felt the need. I rode my KLR at a pretty good pace through all kinds of terrain after I upgraded my suspension and not once did I ever think I would benefit from a damper. The KLR, when properly set up, is a very stable bike. My money would have been better spent on some riding classes than a damper.

But what it all comes down to is you. It's your bike, your money, and you should farkle it out the way that you want to. But don't ask for opinions and then when it isn't what you want to hear, start bashing folks. That just ain't cool.
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:31 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escuchamente
Has anyone tried mounting a steering stabilizer/damper on a KLR 650 whether a Scotts or other make?
http://www.scottsperformance.com/pho...in.php?ID=1309
http://www.scottsperformance.com/damperinfo.php

If so, what are your thoughts. Would it be better to spend the $400 on front suspension work, stabilizer, both?
Not looking for what people "think" about it or what people have done in lieu of suspension/stabilizer work. ONLY LOOKING FOR ADVICE FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY DONE IT. Thanks,
E
I have a Works Enduro Rider steering stabilizer on my KLR, not to control
head shake issues like some have talked about but to control front
wheel side deflection while riding off road. For that reason I really like mine,
kind of a safety item, helps keep the front wheel from deflecting quite
so hard or far when you hit that "gotcha" rock or whatever you did not see.

As far as how my KLR is set up suspenion wise. Forks have progressive
springs, Race Tech gold valve emulators, 10wt. synthetic oil.

Shock has stock spring, Race Tech gold valve emulators, Fox remote
resrvoir with compression adjustment. The gold valves way improve
rebound control.

For me it all works great for what I use it for, Iam happy with mine
it gets ridden mostly dirt I would say 70% dirt 30% asphalt.
I ride everything from two track dirt roads of all conditions,some
ATV trails, no single track and a lot of graded county roads.

My tire of choice is the Kenda K270.

Hope that gives you some helpful info. If you want picks of my stabilizer
install let me know. Iam headed out of town for spring break, so
will not be able to post picks for about a week.

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Old 03-13-2009, 03:54 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by El Brad
I have a Works Enduro Rider steering stabilizer on my KLR, not to control
head shake issues like some have talked about but to control front
wheel side deflection while riding off road. For that reason I really like mine,
kind of a safety item, helps keep the front wheel from deflecting quite
so hard or far when you hit that "gotcha" rock or whatever you did not see.

As far as how my KLR is set up suspenion wise. Forks have progressive
springs, Race Tech gold valve emulators, 10wt. synthetic oil.

Shock has stock spring, Race Tech gold valve emulators, Fox remote
resrvoir with compression adjustment. The gold valves way improve
rebound control.

For me it all works great for what I use it for, Iam happy with mine
it gets ridden mostly dirt I would say 70% dirt 30% asphalt.
I ride everything from two track dirt roads of all conditions,some
ATV trails, no single track and a lot of graded county roads.

My tire of choice is the Kenda K270.

Hope that gives you some helpful info. If you want picks of my stabilizer
install let me know. Iam headed out of town for spring break, so
will not be able to post picks for about a week.

I'd like to see pix of that and, if possible a link to where you got it from.

There is a thread in the hacks forum of klrworld.com where someone is asking about steering dampers on a KLR sidecar rig. He got similar answers from everyone(including me):find and fix the problem before buying a steering damper. But there are some applications where, if the bike is well sorted, a steering damper might be a welcome addition. It would be cool to see how you installed yours!
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:58 PM   #11
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:09 PM   #12
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I Ok, it just doesn't need it.
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Check oil level in forks
Check air pressure in tires
Check chain tighness
Adjust SAG (Rear first, then front) You may need a new rear spring. You can use air in the front.
Front fender may be loose, alternate: trim front fender, replace front fender
Torque steering stem nut

Done..

If you are bottoming or topping your suspension, you need to upgrade. If not, it's fine.
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Old 03-13-2009, 05:23 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by El Brad
I have a Works Enduro Rider steering stabilizer on my KLR, not to control
head shake issues like some have talked about but to control front
wheel side deflection while riding off road. For that reason I really like mine,
kind of a safety item, helps keep the front wheel from deflecting quite
so hard or far when you hit that "gotcha" rock or whatever you did not see.

As far as how my KLR is set up suspenion wise. Forks have progressive
springs, Race Tech gold valve emulators, 10wt. synthetic oil.

Shock has stock spring, Race Tech gold valve emulators, Fox remote
resrvoir with compression adjustment. The gold valves way improve
rebound control.
I think you would agree that for the KLR the suspension upgrades would be the first thing to do before the damper though.
I have a WER on my KLX250S and had a Scott's on my Husky TE250. They really help in rocky stuff (I liked the Scott's better than the WER, YMMV).

A damper is worthwhile, but fix the suspension first.
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Old 03-13-2009, 05:58 PM   #14
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I think you would agree that for the KLR the suspension upgrades would be the first thing to do before the damper though.
I have a WER on my KLX250S and had a Scott's on my Husky TE250. They really help in rocky stuff (I liked the Scott's better than the WER, YMMV).

A damper is worthwhile, but fix the suspension first.
to my knowledge nobody makes a damper specifically for the KLR.
The one I used was for another Kawasaki, don't remember which
one I have a call in to the bike shop that sold it to me, I will post
that info as soon as I get it. It went on real easy, with only
slight mods and a little welding to attach bracket to bike steering head
area. The damper mounts to bike between fender and bottom of triple clamp, using the same bolt holes that the fender uses, then works
using a control arm that attaches to said bracket on bike.
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Old 03-13-2009, 07:22 PM   #15
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