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Old 07-09-2009, 12:33 PM   #91
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1/2 of your rear tread life for 5000 miles...very nice
should be able to get atleast another 2-3000 more outt that, maybe more.
for a tire that tire that does great in the dirt, that is awesome.
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:44 PM   #92
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I have to wonder at the quote, though, because I burned through my Battlewing front tire in 3600 miles.
I got 8000 miles on the rear Battlewing, and the front still had ~1500 miles left on it when I mounted the Heidenaus.

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Old 07-09-2009, 12:46 PM   #93
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Thanks for the report WoodWorks.

Just ordered a set from MotoAmore.
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Old 07-09-2009, 03:35 PM   #94
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I got 8000 miles on the rear Battlewing, and the front still had ~1500 miles left on it when I mounted the Heidenaus.

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yeah but those are refered to as deathwings for a reason.

the BIG picture to focus on with these K60s (especially the rear) is will they provide almost the same traction as tck-80 (at the aprox same price, hopefully less) while providing 2x the life?????

this is the first 170-17" tire to split the (traction) difference between tck-80 & tourance/anakee,etc.
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Old 07-09-2009, 03:36 PM   #95
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has anyone gotten a 150-17" shipped to them yet???
the time for availability should be now.
if so what kind of prices?
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Old 07-09-2009, 04:02 PM   #96
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yeah but those are refered to as deathwings for a reason.
IIRC, it's the TrailWings that earned that designation...
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Old 07-09-2009, 04:28 PM   #97
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IIRC, it's the TrailWings that earned that designation...
You are correct. BattleWings have no pretensions at being being dual sport ties.
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:22 PM   #98
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has anyone gotten a 150-17" shipped to them yet???
the time for availability should be now.
if so what kind of prices?
Front and rear shipped to my door, $318. No tax for me. The prices are on their website, just add shipping and tax if you are in Cali. I've got 400 miles on mine so far, and love them. About half dirt, half street. Going for about a 2000 mile ride next week, half of that dirt. That should tell me a lot, although I am happy with them now.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:47 PM   #99
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You are correct. BattleWings have no pretensions at being being dual sport ties.
...no more than any other dual sport tire. MFGs don't seem to understand what dual sport is. A 40/60 tire is a Knobby (TKC)? I think the Heidenau and Sahara seem the closest to what I think of as a dual sport tire (not that I'm any kind of tire expert, mind you).

I thought the BWs did fine off road. Sure, they sucked in mud. No surprise there. Hell, the TKCs didn't do very good in mud, either and they're way more dirt oriented. The BWs had excellent grip on pavement. No complaint from me there at all. And they got the job done on basic off road. Sounds like a decent tire to me. Ideal? No, but I doubt there will ever be an ideal dual sport tire and since everyone's needs and concept of what ideal would be are different, there's little chance of that happening.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:47 PM   #100
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Great Testimonial, David...

Must have been one hell of a trip... I can't wait to read the ride report.

I'm on paved >80% of the time, but the B-Wings just won't do for offroad... Are the Karoos I just ordered a mistake?
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:33 PM   #101
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Front and rear shipped to my door, $318. No tax for me. The prices are on their website, just add shipping and tax if you are in Cali. I've got 400 miles on mine so far, and love them. About half dirt, half street. Going for about a 2000 mile ride next week, half of that dirt. That should tell me a lot, although I am happy with them now.
that's a bit more than i was thinking they'd sell for. bummer.
being direct from the importer, no agressive pricing like if the big resellers sold them.

a shinko 705 f&r can be had for $100 and are getting 6000 miles, so for a 1/3 of the price i can give up some dirt performance.
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:24 AM   #102
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Front and rear shipped to my door, $318
That sounds high to me too. The shipping cost for my 140/80-17 rear and 90/90-21 to Oregon was only US$12 (and no tax). So if the shipping cost is the same, that would make the total for the 150/70-17 and 90/90-21 from Moto Amore, according to the prices on their web site, only US$249.

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Old 07-10-2009, 09:33 AM   #103
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from Moto Amore, according to the prices on their web site, only US$249.

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I can't find any prices on their web site - you have a link?

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Old 07-10-2009, 09:37 AM   #104
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I can't find any prices on their web site - you have a link?

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Here you go, Trevor:

http://www.moto-amore.com/heidenau/n...uctsnew_b.html

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Old 07-10-2009, 09:38 AM   #105
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That sounds high to me too. The shipping cost for my 140/80-17 rear and 90/90-21 to Oregon was only US$12 (and no tax). So if the shipping cost is the same, that would make the total for the 150/70-17 and 90/90-21 from Moto Amore, according to the prices on their web site, only US$249.

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just checked again:
http://www.moto-amore.com/heidenau/productsnew_b.html

and i'm sure it's for his 1200 GS
so 110/80/19 - $134.20
150/17 - $167
= 301.20 for the tires alone.

these prices are THE most premium as they come for big beast bikes.
guess when you have the only middle ground tires going, you can price them to be the most expensive set on the market. it's really only a few more bucks than other comparable german tires, but it's still a bummer these came in more not less than the others.

i'd still say it's still has to do with the direct importer charging top dollar vrs the resellers discount pricing. i doubt motoamore is gonna bring in enough to see these at the big reseller, similar to how mefo explorer low volumes are only seen at 2 speciality importers.

http://www.americanmototire.com/cata...d5e6aef16fa15d
http://arizonamoto.com/Merchant2/mer...ory_Code=DualP

you 800gs get the deal because the front 21" is cheaper than 19" & you can run the 140-17 in the rear.

heads up all 130-17" rear tire users!!!!
where i will use them is in the 130-17" rear of my DR (f650gs, klr650 & others) @ $110. a premium price yes, but better priced than the current mefo explorers which has crept up to $150 over the last few years
http://www.klr650.com/MEFO%20Sport%20Trail.html
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productlist/765/
i match this rear to a 21" tck-80 front for a great traction long lasting tire combo.

as i use my dr more for dirt work than my strom, i'm going with 705 shinkos for the strom. those have gotten very fovarable reviews for the price. yes you give up traction compared to the k60 but i'm not using my strom as primary dirt machine (my only bike, etc.)

you guys with only 1 bike, a beast, for dirt work will have to suck it up & pay the price for what looks to be your best option. hopefully in the future the price may come down some.

many talk about the virtues of larger bikes for off-road use, but tire prices are glaring example while 650 thumper are cheaper to opperate over these bikes. i'll keep my 650 thumper for this and replace it with a 660 tenere (21" front/130-17" rear) when we eventaully see it in the US
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