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Old 03-26-2009, 11:38 AM   #91
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The slot opening in the middle (red arrows) between the "gouges" is the oil feed hole from the hollow, pressurized oil filled camshaft.
I created that parts screen shot and put the arrows there, pointing in the general area of the areas described as missing material, not directly towards the grooves, though that's what it looks like in retrospect...

Glad to hear Bruce.B has got us the definitive answer, anyway.
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:14 PM   #92
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After The Griz and 996DL used it, it became public property. Being Mr efficiency, I try to minimize my albumn pic load on PhotoBucket.com and re-used the pic link. You have permission to use any of my pics, without any credit, in any future posts.
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:29 PM   #93
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After The Griz and 996DL used it, it became public property. Being Mr efficiency, I try to minimize my albumn pic load on PhotoBucket.com and re-used the pic link. You have permission to use any of my pics, without any credit, in any future posts.
I never claimed ownership, only that I had put the arrows there with little regard to exactly what was being pointed at.
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:22 PM   #94
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Awesome pics, I have no idea where you could have found these. Thanks for posting them.


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That's all ya got eh tough guy?

How about "oops guess I was wrong, sorry for talkin shit"
Jesus, you really are a moron. First I offered a comment on the cam issue, was mistaken, and corrected myself in a follow-up post. Then, I complement a guy for posting great pics of a Penton that brings back great memories but you apparently can't stand the thought that I have already forgotten this whole issue and have moved on. However, you continue to embarrass yourself by offering more antagonistic, infantile, imbecilic, middle-school banter trying to get in the last word. I apologize to readers of this thread by wasting this space, as I will not respond to this knucklehead's posts any more.
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:50 PM   #95
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Boy, this was a very informational thread. In both cam lubrication methods and human behavior.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:15 AM   #96
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Awesome pics, I have no idea where you could have found these. Thanks for posting them.




Jesus, you really are a moron. First I offered a comment on the cam issue, was mistaken, and corrected myself in a follow-up post. Then, I complement a guy for posting great pics of a Penton that brings back great memories but you apparently can't stand the thought that I have already forgotten this whole issue and have moved on. However, you continue to embarrass yourself by offering more antagonistic, infantile, imbecilic, middle-school banter trying to get in the last word. I apologize to readers of this thread by wasting this space, as I will not respond to this knucklehead's posts any more.
There ya go with the name calling again. Guess that really is all ya got

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Old 03-28-2009, 01:09 PM   #97
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(P.S. I think the cam is ok)
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Old 03-29-2009, 08:58 AM   #98
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Thanks to Bruce for doing what I guess I could have done myself, CONTACT Rotax...

I guess this is a good example of why BMW dealers don't want customers in the shop, especially with a camera!

I don't fault the techs for not knowing about the design, this is a new bike and the first time most anyone here has opened it up. You can't expect BMW to have a service bulletin... "ATTENTION the new Rotax f800 motor has what looks like fucked up cams but in reality it's great engineering, just don't let the customers see it!"

The 8GS now has 11,500 miles on her, and I'm glad I can sleep at night knowing that the cam design is brilliant!





So while you the rest of you were in here proving your intelligence I gave my bike a a good washing in Arkansas...







Now, I can move on to another thread about how riding through rivers the GS is good, but the recent massive heavy rain storms in the midwest that I rode right through ALL the way down and ALL the way back killed the engine multiple times and almost left me stranded in dangerously cold/wet conditions...
Now that pisses me off.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:55 AM   #99
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Great photo.....is the limit for water travel or did you go deeper.

Here in Manitoba, we still have winter, our water is still frozen....
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:06 AM   #100
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Chitown, hard to believe it ran thru water that deep. One hell of a wash job.

Not in love with the heavy rain/stalling issues.

If you come thru hotlanta while I'm here, dinner is on me.
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:15 AM   #101
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Now, I can move on to another thread about how riding through rivers the GS is good, but the recent massive heavy rain storms in the midwest that I rode right through ALL the way down and ALL the way back killed the engine multiple times and almost left me stranded in dangerously cold/wet conditions...
Now that pisses me off.

I wonder if it's simlar to the SV650/DL650 stalling issue. That's where the drain holes for the sparkplug wells get clogged, perhaps from a muddy environment. Then the spark plug wells fill with water during a downpour and short out the spark plug caps.
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:44 AM   #102
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I wonder if it's simlar to the SV650/DL650 stalling issue. That's where the drain holes for the sparkplug wells get clogged, perhaps from a muddy environment. Then the spark plug wells fill with water during a downpour and short out the spark plug caps.
No. You don't have to worry about that. Water or mud can never get down into the spark plug wells. Those are sealed on the F8.

But I do think the air intake has a design flaw than can cause water into the air intake when driving in heavy rain and that there is nowhere for the water to go once in the air box but into the engine. I think the easiest way to sort that problem out is simply to remove the rubber pieces at the front of the air intakes and seal the hole in the side panel. The engine will surely get enough air anyway. That should at least help a bit.
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:45 AM   #103
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from an image perspective

I do believe that they are cast in, no question. I think that there are several factors at play that cause you to think that the image looks as if the chunks have broken off.

1st- the image is blurry from camera shake which causes areas from dark to light to spread.

2nd- the dark areas on the edges of the notches are not uniform, from discoloration of the used oil.

3rd- oil is very reflective and even the slightest change in evenness will cause a specular highlight which will make it look non uniform.

I feel that the only way to really get a good assessment is to remove the cam, clean and get good detail shots...
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:47 AM   #104
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I do believe that they are cast in, no question. I think that there are several factors at play that cause you to think that the image looks as if the chunks have broken off.

1st- the image is blurry from camera shake which causes areas from dark to light to spread.

2nd- the dark areas on the edges of the notches are not uniform, from discoloration of the used oil.

3rd- oil is very reflective and even the slightest change in evenness will cause a specular highlight which will make it look non uniform.

I feel that the only way to really get a good assessment for you doubter is to remove the cam, clean and get good detail shots...


Oh boy, you're gonna get it now....

you might want to read the whole thread
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:51 AM   #105
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Oh boy, you're gonna get it now....

you might want to read the whole thread


Yes i read.....

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