Yamaha WR450R Rumors???????? - Page 2

montesa_vr · 03-26-2009, 04:53 PM

I have heard zero substantial information about any plans for a WR450R. And why would it be a 450 even if they did it? Yamaha hasn't had a dual sport larger than 250cc for how many years now? Ten? Fifteen? Why wouldn't they make it a 500, or 550, or 600, or 650?

Remember, the WR250R started with a clean sheet of paper and some parts borrowed from the FZR-1 engine. It had nothing to do with the WR250F. If Yamaha came out with a larger new dual-sport, it would also probably be a clean sheet design. So it could be any size.

If they decided to raid their cruiser parts bin they could do a fuel injected pushrod air-cooled single with displacements up to 835 cc or even 927 cc.

Molgan · 03-26-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by clapped_r6

500cc twin WR adventure bike!

Yay unsubstantiated rumors! Yay!

Where's the Photoshop nerds when you need them?

You mean this one?

Ok that was horrible, I blame the late hour over here. :P

CopaMundial · 03-26-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by montesa_vr

Yamaha hasn't had a dual sport larger than 250cc for how many years now? Ten? Fifteen?

... you forgot to mention the "In the US" part.
They still offer the 660 Tenere outside the US.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/produc...view=techspecs

As far as any rumors of a 450 R², I would find it hard to believe that we're going to see ANY new development from ANY manufacturer in this economic climate.

Bigem · 03-26-2009, 07:05 PM

We get street legal WR450F, CRF450X and KLX450R from Japan, but Suzuki are too soft-cock to get into the biggest market segment we have here in Australia??
All the Euro's have road legal 450s on the market here too.
The WR450R, if it was the same bike as the WR250R would be a great seller here to.
Suzuki's DRZ400, which has been around for over a decade unchanged, is a huge seller because not everybody wants a high maintenance race bike to ride on the trail! Probably why Suzuki won't make a road legal RMZ450!

Lion BR · 03-26-2009, 07:14 PM

Don't forget the XT 660.

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Originally Posted by CopaMundial

... you forgot to mention the "In the US" part.
They still offer the 660 Tenere outside the US.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/produc...view=techspecs

As far as any rumors of a 450 R², I would find it hard to believe that we're going to see ANY new development from ANY manufacturer in this economic climate.

montesa_vr · 03-26-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigem

Suzuki's DRZ400, which has been around for over a decade unchanged, is a huge seller because not everybody wants a high maintenance race bike to ride on the trail!

From what I've read here on ADVrider, Suzuki could have the best selling dual sport just by giving the DRZ a wide ratio six-speed transmission.

Lion BR · 03-26-2009, 07:18 PM

Now... it could had been that your sense of lack of power from the ride was tricked by the lack of vibration on the WR250 (X?), in comparison to the DRZ. Just saying... Oh yes you own a DRZ... that explains it.

Lion

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Originally Posted by Droozy

Just got off a WR 250 SM with a aftermarket pipe/remap And all kinds of stuff taken off.....

IMO it felt like my DRZ completely stock.... and I think thats just because of the lower weight. i did not ask him how much the pipe and remap was.

Turns real good, but there was no torque.

again IMO I think it would hang in with a DRZ in top speed, but I have to say that getting to top speed, the DRZ will win.

GR0NK · 03-26-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by montesa_vr

Yamaha hasn't had a dual sport larger than 250cc for how many years now? Ten? Fifteen?

In North America? 2000 XT350.

Sean

GR0NK · 03-26-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by montesa_vr

From what I've read here on ADVrider, Suzuki could have the best selling dual sport just by giving the DRZ a wide ratio six-speed transmission.

And KTM could do it by just by giving the 450/530 a comfy seat.

Sean

5050 · 03-26-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by montesa_vr

From what I've read here on ADVrider, Suzuki could have the best selling dual sport just by giving the DRZ a wide ratio six-speed transmission.

Agreed. A DRZe with 6-speed and lights would kill everything in sight for cost and utility.

dirty_sanchez · 03-27-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion BR

Something to consider... considering the origins of the WR250R motor, for Yamaha to make it a 450 size bike, would it need to be a 2cyl 500?
Lion

Mmmm, sounds good.

I'd buy one.

Dirty

Yzlvr · 03-27-2009, 07:54 AM

I am looking for a plated dirt bike and was thinking about the WR250R but I am afraid that it might be a little weak. I ride about 50% desert trails, so a 450 would be ideal. Come on Yamaha!!

Timeless · 03-27-2009, 07:58 AM

Depending on your state, you can make a WR 450 street legal quite easily....besides adding blinkers, etc the bike is really set up well for street use.... Im jelous of the 450's and electric start though!

LukasM · 03-27-2009, 08:25 AM

The WR450F (same as 2T and 4T KTM EXCs since the 90s) is only sold in street legal form in Europe. Electric start, lights, key lock etc.

So the parts should be available from Yamaha dealers if they can order from Europe.

Droozy · 03-27-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lion BR

Now... it could had been that your sense of lack of power from the ride was tricked by the lack of vibration on the WR250 (X?), in comparison to the DRZ. Just saying... Oh yes you own a DRZ... that explains it.

Lion

Your asshatery is spreading thin.....but i'll bite.

there was no.... how would you call it...... "pick me up" Just like the DRZ was in stock form. this had a pipe and remap, and plainly no balls. The DRZ has only 1 ball. and to get a full set you have to go to KTM/husky.

I forgot that this was the interwebz though and if you don't agree with my opinion then i must delete it ehh?

A guy asked the difference I gave him my opinion...... and personally, to follow the OP's first post..... I would love to see a WR450 SL. Maybe your having 250 denial issues?

03-26-2009, 04:53 PM	#16
montesa_vr Legend in his own mind Joined: Mar 2006 Oddometer: 1,625	I have heard zero substantial information about any plans for a WR450R. And why would it be a 450 even if they did it? Yamaha hasn't had a dual sport larger than 250cc for how many years now? Ten? Fifteen? Why wouldn't they make it a 500, or 550, or 600, or 650? Remember, the WR250R started with a clean sheet of paper and some parts borrowed from the FZR-1 engine. It had nothing to do with the WR250F. If Yamaha came out with a larger new dual-sport, it would also probably be a clean sheet design. So it could be any size. If they decided to raid their cruiser parts bin they could do a fuel injected pushrod air-cooled single with displacements up to 835 cc or even 927 cc. __________________ Often wrong, but never in doubt. montesa_vr screwed with this post 03-26-2009 at 05:22 PM

03-26-2009, 07:05 PM	#19
Bigem Beastly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Qld Oddometer: 2,366	We get street legal WR450F, CRF450X and KLX450R from Japan, but Suzuki are too soft-cock to get into the biggest market segment we have here in Australia?? All the Euro's have road legal 450s on the market here too. The WR450R, if it was the same bike as the WR250R would be a great seller here to. Suzuki's DRZ400, which has been around for over a decade unchanged, is a huge seller because not everybody wants a high maintenance race bike to ride on the trail! Probably why Suzuki won't make a road legal RMZ450! __________________ "I'm a thousand miles from nowhere, Time don't matter to me, Cause I'm a thousand miles from nowhere, And there's no place I'd rather be!!

03-27-2009, 07:58 AM	#28
Timeless Intermittent Excursionist Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Cape Cod, MA Oddometer: 98	Depending on your state, you can make a WR 450 street legal quite easily....besides adding blinkers, etc the bike is really set up well for street use.... Im jelous of the 450's and electric start though! __________________ "Like all great travellers, I have seen more than I remember, and remember more than I have seen."

03-27-2009, 08:25 AM	#29
LukasM Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Oddometer: 4,900	The WR450F (same as 2T and 4T KTM EXCs since the 90s) is only sold in street legal form in Europe. Electric start, lights, key lock etc. So the parts should be available from Yamaha dealers if they can order from Europe. __________________ Proud member of the HUSABERG ADVENTURE TEAM! '12 Husaberg FE570, 09 KTM XC-F/ 450 RFS hybrid, 07 KTM 450 SMR, 08+09 BMW F650GS twins/F800GS conversion, 03+05 YZF-R6

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03-27-2009, 07:54 AM	#27
Yzlvr ^OP Studly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Newbury Park, CA Oddometer: 838	I am looking for a plated dirt bike and was thinking about the WR250R but I am afraid that it might be a little weak. I ride about 50% desert trails, so a 450 would be ideal. Come on Yamaha!!