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Old 03-26-2009, 11:59 AM   #1
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XR 400 R vs. XR 600 R

Guys,

Sorry if this is a topic previously covered. Need some information pretty quick regarding the purchase of a 1997 XR 400 R.

For the past couple of months I have been looking to purchase a street legal XR 600 R. Followed a lot of threads on thumpers, added a little personal experience and ended up believing the XR 600 R the bike that best fit my requirements.

During this time I found one in the Atlanta area that fit my needs and was well priced. Sadly, I missed the opportunity to purchase.

Tomorrow morning I am going to view a street legal XR 400 R and will buy it if it is in good shape.

Here is my question to experienced XR R riders. Should I wait for a 600?

Some considerations:

This will be my dual sport bike. I tend to travel light without a need for lots of luggage. I want a bike that can be used on trails AND get me to those trails. Meaning, this bike will see some miles on roads and highways.

I weigh about 190 lbs and am 5' 10'.

I need the bike for a TAT ride this summer.

I relish old school. No need for electric start or that funky water cooled idea.

Thanks,


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Old 03-26-2009, 12:09 PM   #2
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I was in the same decision process. I chose the XR400R and am so glad I did! It is a lighter bike but is still a pig on the really technical trails. I can only imagine what the 600 would feel like. The 400 has plenty of power to keep most people happy. There are a few glitches like starting the bike etc..... My only complaint with the 400 is that I can't get it street legal in WA state. I have ridden plenty of roads at speed and it handles ok. Long highway trips... this bike would not be my first choice for sure. I am actually thinking of downsizing to a dual sport 250 for the more technical trails. You will need to make some modifications if doing a long ride.... most notable will be the gas tank.
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:29 PM   #3
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The XR400 is a little lighter but not by much. The 600R is 270lbs in stock trim and would not be considered light by anyones standards. That being said the 600 is also one of the best bikes ever made. Last year I took mine to Moab for a week of sometimes extreamly technical riding. I did Porcupine Rim including the last 3.5 miles of single track (double black diamond, rated 4+ out of 5) which I should add cannot be done by yourself. I like the power and torque of the 600 over the 400. I have mine geared so it will do 85 mph on the highway yet 1st gear is still dead slow. Ether bike won't let you down but the 600 is the swiss army knife of motorcycles. m2c
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:57 PM   #4
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I vote for the XR600R.

I rode one for 7 long years!
NEVER had a problem with it.
[Just maintain it!]

More power/torque than the XR400.

Great for a dualsport bike.

Great for SingleTrack if you're
not a pussy who whines about
a little extra weight. [Dude,
just lift weights. Stay in shape.]

No starter battery to go dead.

No radiators to leak.

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Old 03-26-2009, 05:06 PM   #5
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I say wait for the 600, I'm on my third XR600R, and had an XR500R before them, an XR650R in the middle....and an XR400R in there somewhere.

I took the XR400 to Copper Canyon, and while it can do road miles....at times you feel like you're wringing it's neck.
The 600R is the better tool. That trip on the 400 is what sealed it's fate. It was an excellent trailbike, but Copper was 900 miles of pavement to get to (and back from) 100 miles of offroad. The XR628 I have now is (to me) about as perfect all-around as bikes get.
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:44 PM   #6
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I've haven't ridden the XR600 much but my XR400 wasn't the best dual sport bike. The transmission is too narrow ratio and it won't pull the higher gearing up hills or at high elevation. I didn't find it too heavy in the tight single track I like (except when I had to carry it over logs by myself).
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Old 03-27-2009, 03:11 AM   #7
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Go the 600. I got mine after putting in a far bit of research. The 600R is a good all round bike. It's really a "desert racer" but it happy on the street, fire trials etc.

also it's bullet proof. Ask anyone that has sold one and I bet they regret it (sooner or later). cheap to buy, cheap to run, long service intervals etc.


That being said the 400's are pretty sweet too.
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Old 03-27-2009, 03:53 AM   #8
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XR 400.Hard to kill.I tryed
Ive had 600s as well.If your going to do more bush work go the 400.if its more long runs your into go the 600.My 2c
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:40 PM   #9
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the XR400 seat sucks after an hour, the tank is small, the headlight is dim. those are about the only gripes I have, and they are easily fixed. just realize the limitations of the bike and learn to live with them. change the oil a lot. I would really like to try a 600 for comparisons sake.
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:30 AM   #10
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I have 400 and 600...



I prefer Xr400.
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:44 AM   #11
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I have 400 and 600...


I prefer Xr400.
Heres 67 pages of XR400 for those with interest:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302523
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:48 AM   #12
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KLX300 uncorked is a better bike, weighs in at 231 lbs and has a six speed trans.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/20.../05/index.html
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Old 03-28-2009, 05:50 AM   #13
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KLX300 uncorked is a better bike, weighs in at 231 lbs and has a six speed trans.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/20.../05/index.html
Might be, but its green.
KLX650-C is better at some things too but not offroad, enduro, wheelies och gravel. It does have E-start though.

Its been said before but:
400 for tighter stuff, 600 for open stuff. Both will do either but not as well as the other.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:28 AM   #14
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I like the 400 better, its lighter, better handling, better ergonomics, virtually the same power etc. I don't know if I would do big street miles on it, but it would be fine for getting to the trials so long as its got proper gearing for it.
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:27 AM   #15
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Last year I took mine to Moab for a week of sometimes extreamly technical riding. I did Porcupine Rim including the last 3.5 miles of single track (double black diamond, rated 4+ out of 5) which I should add cannot be done by yourself.
I did it by myself last fall. Only one real tough obstacle, but it's only tough going up, coming down was easy enough.


I'm riding an XR600 and couldn't be happier. I'm in cabo right now, just rode it 1500+ miles down here.

Though that said, I wouldn't hesitate to buy an XR400 if I found one for a good price. They are both fantastic bikes. I'd buy whichever one you can find a good deal on.
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