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Old 06-18-2012, 01:21 PM   #48721
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squash bugs on all of my squash plants Tim.

what do I do?> i tried removing eggs by hand, i dumped some hot sauce on one plant to see if it would drown them, there were larva, and full grown plants on one plant even, I mushed as many as I could...



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Will insectacidal soap work...you can make your own.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:27 PM   #48722
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where do I buy some DE? the farmers Co-Op?
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:36 PM   #48723
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and wayno, I see a bunch of recipes for that soap,, should I start with neem oil?

or do you have a fav recipe?
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:38 PM   #48724
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Eh? Dang Doc

Doc, now I'm feeling kind of bad because I had such a great time Saturday. While you were adding injury to insult, I was hanging out at Gateway BMW, chatting with Tom Huff.
The guys there are a class act.
I knew the universe either was conspiring against me, or for me , when I walked in the door. A Husqvarna TE 511 was sitting broadside right inside the entrance. That was the bike that I was interested in seeing/trying on for size.
While my wife didn't buy it for me for Fathers Day, she did get me a hat.
But it will be my next "new bike" purchase.
We went up the road to Cycle Gear next, where my family bought me a gift card. By doing so, Kelly got $15 off a new helmet for her BRC later this month.

We finished the day at Donelson's, where she sat on several bikes, and I think is narrowing down what she likes/ what fits.
Anyone going through St. Louis, both dealers are worth stopping by. Donelson's even has a museum attached.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:49 PM   #48725
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where do I buy some DE? the farmers Co-Op?
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:53 PM   #48726
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Be really careful with soap, as you can control (i.e. kill) lots of plants with soaps!!!. For starters, it doesn't kill all insects (better on aphids than squash bugs, but it does work somewhat on them). The best, safest bet for something you will eat (squash) is a combination of a specific insecticidal soap combined with pyrethrin (derived from a flower). You can get these at WalMart or any big box store, which is what I recommend.

Just look for "pyrethrin" on the label. Generally the pre-mixed products formulated for vegetable gardens already have some of the soap mixed in at the proper rate, so you won't kill your plants.


True story: one of my students was the pest manager for Longwood Gardens (huge garden outside Philly). They don't allow harsh insecticides, and he had a horrible infestation of whiteflies on their millions of pointsettias just before Christmas. He called me to double-check the rate of his soap (he was mixing his own) he had just used. He had sprayed 5 different rates on some test plants, and picked the highest rate that didn't hurt he plant after 3 days. He was so proud of his decision, he called to boast.
Problem is, it takes 5 days for the impact of the soap to be "final". Yup, he killed about $150,000 worth of pointsettias with soap.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:57 PM   #48727
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ahh, ok, thanks Magoo.

Ill try that first, if its not alreay too late, then pick up some DE when I can find some.
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:29 PM   #48728
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ahh, ok, thanks Magoo.

Ill try that first, if its not alreay too late, then pick up some DE when I can find some.
I found mine at a nursery in Johnson..got me a 20 lb bag years ago and have abt half of it left..it goes a long ways!
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:00 PM   #48729
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squash bugs on all of my squash plants Tim.

what do I do?> i tried removing eggs by hand, i dumped some hot sauce on one plant to see if it would drown them, there were larva, and full grown plants on one plant even, I mushed as many as I could...



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Plant more squash, they seem hungry.
Won't your chickens eat those little pests?
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:14 PM   #48730
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squash bugs on all of my squash plants Tim.

what do I do?> i tried removing eggs by hand, i dumped some hot sauce on one plant to see if it would drown them, there were larva, and full grown plants on one plant even, I mushed as many as I could...



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Here's what we got from Mother Earth News.

Place a 1X4 board down between the rows of plants. Turn it over in the morning and stomp on the bugs. Repeat as needed.

We haven't had any squash bugs this year, but they tore stuff up last year.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:34 PM   #48731
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and wayno, I see a bunch of recipes for that soap,, should I start with neem oil?

or do you have a fav recipe?
I just buy it good for spider mites, aphids and I learned about it from it being on of the few relativly safe things that will kill Box Elder Bugs...not very expensive. Between that and Seven is abliut all I use.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:41 PM   #48732
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Be really careful with soap, as you can control (i.e. kill) lots of plants with soaps!!!. For starters, it doesn't kill all insects (better on aphids than squash bugs, but it does work somewhat on them). The best, safest bet for something you will eat (squash) is a combination of a specific insecticidal soap combined with pyrethrin (derived from a flower). You can get these at WalMart or any big box store, which is what I recommend.

Just look for "pyrethrin" on the label. Generally the pre-mixed products formulated for vegetable gardens already have some of the soap mixed in at the proper rate, so you won't kill your plants.


True story: one of my students was the pest manager for Longwood Gardens (huge garden outside Philly). They don't allow harsh insecticides, and he had a horrible infestation of whiteflies on their millions of pointsettias just before Christmas. He called me to double-check the rate of his soap (he was mixing his own) he had just used. He had sprayed 5 different rates on some test plants, and picked the highest rate that didn't hurt he plant after 3 days. He was so proud of his decision, he called to boast.
Problem is, it takes 5 days for the impact of the soap to be "final". Yup, he killed about $150,000 worth of pointsettias with soap.
Just saw that a farm spply.....Nicotine is good also. You havbe to mist it not cover all the plant or as Magoo said but I have never lost a plaqnt to it that I know of. I mist bottom of leaves where mites and aphids live. Alot of the pest control places have changes to a lot of nicotine use since they took Diazonon and Malathion off the Mkt and by the way I just saw a jug of Malathion on the shelf at store....wtf
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:08 PM   #48733
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Did you pick that up from Duane's buddy? Sure seemed like a good price.

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Old 06-18-2012, 04:36 PM   #48734
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chicken wire around the garden to keep the dog out, and the chickens dont fly over the wire, unless I forget to fill up their water dish, and then the fly in and get a 'drink' of my tomatos.





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Plant more squash, they seem hungry.
Won't your chickens eat those little pests?
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:11 PM   #48735
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Calling O'Leary!!!

I got those fancy Fastway F3 pegs you suggested. 1 problem. What did you do to get them to work???

1. They don't kick up at all, blocked by a little tab on them (see pliers pointing to them).

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