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Old 12-20-2013, 12:16 PM   #74101
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I heard that Mouth is trading in his MG for THIS something about the headlights actually work?
I would probably make that trade, think that car has a working heater?

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:07 PM   #74102
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I'm buying an xt350 tank to put on the TW. Should add 1.5 gallons for $75 less than the Clarke tank that adds 1 gallon, which means I should break even after selling my TW tank!

Hey Mattmus,

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=942094

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:10 PM   #74103
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Well like most other TR and BMW owners out there I have a problem with "lean" stumble that results in rough idle and sometimes the engine dying at inopportune times. They are intentionally leaned out to comply with California laws.

Spoofers are available commercially such as the "Wuka King", "Booster Plug" and the "IICE" or I could do a Power Commander and Auto Tune. None of these fit my budget so I decided to build what is called the "Eruption Spoofer".

So I decided to build it. I got my thermistors today and they are a LOT smaller than I thought. There are 16 in that bag. I need eight and Arkwhizzy (Mike) doing this too.



I pulled the AIT out. That part wasn't hard but the spring clip flew off when I pried on it and it took me a while to find it again. It was on top of the engine head kinda hidden.



The next step was to cut the "cage" off of the the AIT to expose the existing thermistor.



So now I have this.



I will complete the AIT this evening. Kinda scary that the bike is without the AIT right now but if I mess things up a new one is available at Bentonville BMW for $19.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:11 PM   #74104
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cool charlie, try not to burn your self with the soldering iron.

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:14 PM   #74105
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cool charlie, try not to burn your self with the soldering iron.

I can build this one for less than $20 and the other options range from $95 to over $500. $20 is good.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:18 PM   #74106
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Hurry up..... I just might sell my Raven and buy the white one....

Dang it... I was wanting to see some parts come off so I could snag the skid plate and risers..... wanting a bit more protection than what the
Yamaha plate offers that came on mine....
I dig these skid plates for the Tenere.

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:21 PM   #74107
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I can build this one for less than $20 and the other options range from $95 to over $500. $20 is good.
I have the IICE air on my beemer, well i did.

I could tell zero difference with it , and some other folks have posted data that the temp spoofers are learned out by the evil borg that controls fuel delivery, on the boxer motors at least with the motronic brains.. not sure what evil borg yours has.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:24 PM   #74108
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Looks like he's already found one, oh well. I'll list it on the TW forum and see if there are any takers.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:25 PM   #74109
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I heard that Mouth is trading in his MG for THIS something about the headlights actually work?
That'd make one heck of a snowplow!

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Old 12-20-2013, 02:21 PM   #74110
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I can build this one for less than $20 and the other options range from $95 to over $500. $20 is good.
I hope it works for you Charlie. As I understand from reading stuff about FI it seems that the inputs get adapted out over time as the ECM learns. It seems the master input is the oxygen sensor and that is the sensor that needs spoofed.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:32 PM   #74111
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I hope it works for you Charlie. As I understand from reading stuff about FI it seems that the inputs get adapted out over time as the ECM learns. It seems the master input is the oxygen sensor and that is the sensor that needs spoofed.

speaking of such things Tim.

ive had my purple code plug in for a few months, TRYING to live with it.. .herky, jerky, missing, sputtering, and still getting terrible mileage.

I went back to the NON-cat setting, ill rig up a CO2 pot and mess with trying to get it set right soon.

it runs SO Much better ignoring the O2, perhaps my O2 is bad.. but not sure I want to spend $60 to find out it just runs terrible that way.. haha
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:03 PM   #74112
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I hope it works for you Charlie. As I understand from reading stuff about FI it seems that the inputs get adapted out over time as the ECM learns. It seems the master input is the oxygen sensor and that is the sensor that needs spoofed.

The Terra has a souped up ECU. It is a lot different than your BMW's. It does learn and adapt but this spoofer is designed for that. I guess we will see.

I just finished up the AIT. This is the plug that will go back into the air box. I have removed the cage and post that housed the old thermistor and stripped back the wires and tinned them.



The thermistor bundle (8) twisted together tinned and soldered to the leads on the plug and then I set the heat shrink tubes.



In order to make the sensor stiff enough to withstand the vibrations of the bike you need to put consecutive layers of heat shrink tube on to stiffen it up.





Finished AIT spoofer



I didn't get the picture before I pulled out the stock AIT but it was 54.5 degrees in my garage according to the gauge on my dash. This mod is supposed to fool the ECU into believing that it is 20* colder so that it richens the mixure and delivers smooth idle, no hickups or complete stalls.

As you can see the temperature was exactly 20* colder on the gauge after the modification.



So, the mod was a success. Previously when I started the bike the ECU would hunt around trying to normalize the engine into running at a steady idle. It also took about 10 minutes for the bike to warm enough to get that steady idle but I still would get stalls and hiccups. I took the bike out right before the rain got heavier and it warmed almost immediately and ran smooth as silk. I guess time will tell if the mod continues to work correctly.

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Old 12-20-2013, 03:14 PM   #74113
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I think I seen this on a wall at a novelty shop for $29.95

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Old 12-20-2013, 03:32 PM   #74114
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Be interesting to see if it has an adverse affect on your mileage.
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:03 PM   #74115
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From what people on Cafe Husky are saying, it doesn't. The Husky has a Magnetti Marelli ECU which is a non-canbus ECU and a new design.

This mod applies to the open loop operation of the ECU. Open loop operation is used only during warm up and as soon as the O2 sensors are up to operating temperature, the ECU switches to closed loop operation with the ECU applying mixture corrections from the O2 sensor inputs. Admittedly, temperature inputs are used to determine mixture in closed loop operation.

Closed loop is typically locked out until engine temperature is reached, ie post warm-up. At that point a closed loop is in effect, move the throttle & you're back to open loop. This ECU has the ability to "learn" new settings on "open loop" and will adapt to the new AIT but on closed loop the ECU will still do it's thing properly. The TR is just lean in the warm up mode.

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