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Old 07-03-2013, 08:20 PM   #5671
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Based on my experience with a hp2 enduro in indo, I would say a small bike with a big tank and soft seat would be ideal. I reckon a honda xr 400 or dr 400 suzuki with waterproof soft panniers would be idea. Added to that some k60 70/30 off road tyres and 20 litre tank and it would be ideal.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:32 AM   #5672
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There's only two downsides to the KLX250 (which might affect some of your other choices). 1. Small tank and only takes Pertemax, so topping up by roadside bottles along the way is for emergency only, gotta learn to queue. 2. Seat is a plank for the 5 hours you talk of.
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Two up? Probably not so great.

F800 is on your list, but for weight, cost and frankly dubious utility value, I'd recommend the smaller bike. It'll be just as fast point to point (or faster), easier and more fun. It'll be a BIG bike two up in the traffic.

Just my Rp2,000 worth...
Thanks period3.

I didn't know that KLX only takes Pertamax ...

I was set on Husky Terra 650, but when I learned that it only takes high octane gas, I had to reconsider it. I mean, please correct me if I'm wrong, the ability to use 89 octane gas is impotrtant, because it means one less thing to worry about in a long trip. Low on gas, just stop at any gas station and fill up.

F800 is on my list because if I buy it then I will sel my Monster. It's gonna be a one bike solution for me, a bike for commuting and also for touring on good road and bad roads.

Mike, unfortunatelly there's no 400cc bikes here. From 250cc it jumps to 650 and bigger, and Kawasaki is the only japanese brand that sells bigger than 250cc bike. If Kawasaki sells KLR 650 here, I will buy it in a heart beat, but they only sell 600cc sport bikes.
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Old 07-08-2013, 10:26 PM   #5673
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Siang Semua~

Saya angga dari Jambi, dengan tunggangan MegaPro tahun 2007..

saya berencana akan mengadakan touring menggunakan sepeda motor ber 2 dengan Istri, dari Jambi menuju Serang.

bbrp hari ini saya sudah searching2 di internet dan mencari informasi2 mengenai rute yang akan saya lalui.. kebanyakan dari teman2 jg sudah menyarankan jalur lintas timur sumatera sebagai rute yang lebih baik..

dengan rute sbg berikut
Jambi - Simpang Tempino - Bayung Lincir - Sungai Lilin - Palembang - Indralaya - Kayu Agung - Menggala - Sukadana - Ketapang - Bakauheni - Merak - Serang.

dengan total kurang lebih 600Km

saya terkendala di pembuatan peta perjalanan. begitu saya lihat di Google earth ato google maps, rute yang ditunjuk oleh 'get destination' tidak lah sama dengan yang saya rencanakan tsb.

saya memohon bantuan dari teman2 disini, agar bisa dibantu membuatkan peta perjalanan nya. asalkan rutenya sudah benar. saya akan mendetailkan nya sendiri nanti..

Terima kasih sebelumnya..
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:08 AM   #5674
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Halo bung Angga, saya coba bikin routenya, apakah ini yang anda perlukan?

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=J...mra=ls&t=m&z=7
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:13 AM   #5675
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Waww!! bener banget kak BobPS, saya nggak tau kalo di maps itu bisa multiple destination, sangkain cuman bisa dari A ke B ajah.. >,<

Ternyata jarak tempuh nya jadi lebih jauh ya kak, kalo dibandingkan dengan melewati jalan raya lintas sumatera.

maaf, adakah field report terbaru tentang jalan raya lintas sumatera kak?
dan mohon bantuan nya andaikan ada thread tentang persiapan touring yang bisa di rekomendasikan untuk saya baca?

agak deg2an jg nih. soalnya 1st touring antar pulau
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:43 PM   #5676
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I was about to start a thread asking for fastest speed ridden in Indonesia.

Is there any place a GS800 would be faster than a KLX250? I just got back from a couple weeks riding in Bali, Sumba, Java and Sumatra... I think 84 KMH was the fastest I hit!

Riding up to Aceh from Medan Sumatra with my Garmin gps 62 I noticed:

1. When stuck behind buses/trucks we were commonly doing 15-20 kmh.

2. The "hot shot" buses passing them settled in around 35 kmh.

3. I felt like I personally was one of the fastest guys on the road... don't remember a bike ever passing me and rarely was I going above 75 kmh.

4. Medan - rarely saw 10 kmh !

5. Bandung - mostly below 20 kmh traffic... they have that toll road to Jakarta I'm guessing would be faster but are we even allowed on it?
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:59 AM   #5677
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maaf, adakah field report terbaru tentang jalan raya lintas sumatera kak?
dan mohon bantuan nya andaikan ada thread tentang persiapan touring yang bisa di rekomendasikan untuk saya baca?

agak deg2an jg nih. soalnya 1st touring antar pulau
Report ttg kondisi jalan terkini sepertinya tidak ada ya....saya pernah coba search tapi gak berhasil dapat.

Untuk persiapan turing coba lihat di sub forum Trip Planning, kalau dr namanya mungkin ada tips untuk persiapan jalan jauh.

Saya belum pernah nyeberang ke sumatera, tetapi cukup sering kelayapan di pulau jawa. Beberapa yg bisa saya sarankan:
1. Persiapan kendaraan. Cek kondisi mesin, ban dan rem. Servis dan ganti kalau perlu.
2. Jalan santai. Gak perlu terburu-buru atau ngebut. Pengalaman saya, kecepatan rata2 di sini berkisar antara 50-60 km per jam. Setiap kali saya jalan ke jogja, yg jaraknya sekitar 600an km dr jakarta, waktu tempuh selalu berkisar antara 10-12 jam. Itu jalan santai, karena kebetulan saya bukan tipe yg senang ngebut dan senangnya menikmati perjalanan. Kalau mau cepat sampai saya akan naik pesawat terbang, tidk naik motor. Di tempat2 tertentu mungkin kita bisa jalan kencang 100 kpj atau lebih ...tapi rata-rata waktu, saat kita tiba di tujuan selalu antara 50-60 kpj.
3. Hindari perjalanan malam hari.
4. Sering-sering istirahat. Setiap 100 km ada baiknya istirahat sejenak untuk meluruskan kaki, dan banyak-banyak minum.

Degdegan itu perlu dan penting terutama utk membuat kita bersiap2 dan berhati-hati. Sampai sekarang pun, saya selalu deg degan atau excited di malam menjelang berangkat :-)

Titip lihat-lihat supply pertamax selama perjalanan ya. Saya punya rencana jalan2 ke sumatera dan ingun tahu apakah pertamax gampang diperoleh atau tidak.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:53 AM   #5678
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Report ttg kondisi jalan terkini sepertinya tidak ada ya....saya pernah coba search tapi gak berhasil dapat.

Untuk persiapan turing coba lihat di sub forum Trip Planning, kalau dr namanya mungkin ada tips untuk persiapan jalan jauh.

Saya belum pernah nyeberang ke sumatera, tetapi cukup sering kelayapan di pulau jawa. Beberapa yg bisa saya sarankan:
1. Persiapan kendaraan. Cek kondisi mesin, ban dan rem. Servis dan ganti kalau perlu.
2. Jalan santai. Gak perlu terburu-buru atau ngebut. Pengalaman saya, kecepatan rata2 di sini berkisar antara 50-60 km per jam. Setiap kali saya jalan ke jogja, yg jaraknya sekitar 600an km dr jakarta, waktu tempuh selalu berkisar antara 10-12 jam. Itu jalan santai, karena kebetulan saya bukan tipe yg senang ngebut dan senangnya menikmati perjalanan. Kalau mau cepat sampai saya akan naik pesawat terbang, tidk naik motor. Di tempat2 tertentu mungkin kita bisa jalan kencang 100 kpj atau lebih ...tapi rata-rata waktu, saat kita tiba di tujuan selalu antara 50-60 kpj.
3. Hindari perjalanan malam hari.
4. Sering-sering istirahat. Setiap 100 km ada baiknya istirahat sejenak untuk meluruskan kaki, dan banyak-banyak minum.

Degdegan itu perlu dan penting terutama utk membuat kita bersiap2 dan berhati-hati. Sampai sekarang pun, saya selalu deg degan atau excited di malam menjelang berangkat :-)

Titip lihat-lihat supply pertamax selama perjalanan ya. Saya punya rencana jalan2 ke sumatera dan ingun tahu apakah pertamax gampang diperoleh atau tidak.
akhirnya bisa internetan lagii~~ hohoho..

motor sudah saya servis nih,
tali gas dan kompling sudah saya ganti karna yang yang lama udah rawan putus.
oli sudah ganti dan udah cuci karbu jg

sekarang permasalahan saya ada di lampu tambahan. tadi saya ke toko aksesoris motor, untuk menanyakan perihal lampu ini. saya disuguhkan 2 buah lampu tembak merek h*logen.. tapi kata nya nggak bisa pasang disana, karena dibutuhkan relay.. dan orang toko itu nggak bisa rakit sambungan nya ( apalagi saya )

rencana nya lampu ini akan saya taro di engine guard. karena di EG saya ada dudukan..
nah ada nggak saran nih dari kak BobPs buat jenis atopun merek lampu yang bisa saya gunakan tanpa harus dipasangi relay..

mohon bantuan nya..
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:35 PM   #5679
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Waah saya gak ngerti soal kelistrikan motor, jadi gak tahu merk apa yg bisa dipakai tanpa relay.
Tapi kalau saya, saya akan beli yg perlu relay dan saya bawa ke bengkel motor utk minta dipasangkan dan minta dirakitkan relay.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:49 AM   #5680
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Waah saya gak ngerti soal kelistrikan motor, jadi gak tahu merk apa yg bisa dipakai tanpa relay.
Tapi kalau saya, saya akan beli yg perlu relay dan saya bawa ke bengkel motor utk minta dipasangkan dan minta dirakitkan relay.
wah, mending yang pake relay yah.. kalo gitu nanti coba deh saya cari2 dulu tempat buat rakit relay nya

sementara ini cari yang buat lampu utama dulu deh, kalo ternyata ada lampu utama yang bisa nyala terang, pake itu aja cukup kali ya.. >,< saya liat kalo lampu yang terang itu bisa bikin meleleh dinding didalam soal nya :(
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:03 PM   #5681
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1. I am about to get punished, i am ready. No one disparages the bigger is better mantra (anything under 100 HP is a ladies bike)!
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2. I own an F800GS at home (Sydney) and have owned a stream of dual sports (DR650 is favourite). Here in Kalimantan, I would buy a KLX250, but the Scorpio is a reasonable alternative (more below). My DR6650 would be OK. The F800GS a PITA. R1200GS a lot of weight to pick up...
I think what you state maybe true for your local riding conditions in Kalimantan, but is a generalisation for the whole country. The riding to be found in this vast country is extremely varied from island to island. Bigger is definitely not always better agreed, but big bikes do have their place in Indo.

On ashphalt and gravel roads for example, whats there not to like about riding a F8 ? The trans Sulawesi or Trans Flores highways for example. Amazing roads to ride on the bigger displacement bikes. Did anybody say twisties ??



If venturing off the beaten track or offroad anywhere on a big heavy bike, your experience will depend on where and at what time of year your're riding IMO.

I've found in the past during the dry season, that in Bali and all places East of the Wallace Line where the country can more resemble northern Australia than SE Asia , the big bikes have been fine on non technical single track. (as long as its a normal dry season that is )

My F800GS on the slopes of Rinjani in Lombok



Mike on a really rocky trail high above Labuan Lombok on his 220 kg Africa Twin.



If I wanted to ride off ashphalt anywhere north and west of Bali I would leave the big bikes at home even in the dry. Totally agree with what your're saying relating to Kalimantan.

A KLX is a good all round choice for the whole country if i was to have only one bike, especially if venturing off main roads.


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3. The Scorpio is as stable off road and in mud as the DR650. 18" wheels are not to be underestimated (and neither is weight - this is easier to ride on dirt than my 220kg 17" wheel Bandit - who'd have thought…)


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4. Given the road conditions, the mud, the fuel supply, the pot holes and the traffic, anyone on an R1200GS or KTM Adventure 990 (or any dual sport > 650) would have a miserable time by comparison. If fact, I believe that in the conditions here in East Kalimantan, a 650 would be overkill (not good at a cruising speed is about 70km/hr). Anything bigger, PITA.
I've run both my fuel injected F800GS and Husaberg FE390 on bottled fuel in Bali, Lombok, Borneo & Sumbawa without a problem I have on occassion added octane booster but not as a rule. I havn't really noticed any changes to performance either. I guess I could get a fuel pump failure or worse one day, but so far so good.

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5. Why not a KLX250? Well, KLX150's are cheap (but not great for hauling 105kg riders). KLX250's are $7,700 and have a 4 month waiting list. I figured I could buy a scorpio, trash the thing, have a good time and still go everywhere I wanted to go…
The KLX150 is also incredibly heavy for its size.

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I actually laugh when I see an expat on a harley, or a z1000 or a BMW. It is truly is style over substance… and not the least bit satisfying as a rider given the road conditions and other road users.

I am changed. Less is more. My ultimate overland ride involves local bikes that can be repaired by local mechanics, tyres from local workshops and replaced with simlarly cheap local bikes.
You can laugh at me then mate
I repect your choice, but I love riding my F8 on the street here in Bali . Its got nothing to do about top speed in my opinion. The bloody traffic is a nightmare nowadays, and to have the acceleration to overtake quickly and safely is a huge bonus. Its comfortable and also hitting potholes and stray dogs is much safer on a big bike as its much more stable after the event . . It also is fantastic on those twisties

That being said, if you want to see the result of taking big heavy bikes off road during an ad normal "dry season" in Flores take a look at my current RR.
"Less is More". Yup, when things go south, I now totally agree with that. Big bikes then are a total PITA

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Old 07-15-2013, 07:20 PM   #5682
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I was about to start a thread asking for fastest speed ridden in Indonesia.

Is there any place a GS800 would be faster than a KLX250? I just got back from a couple weeks riding in Bali, Sumba, Java and Sumatra... I think 84 KMH was the fastest I hit!

Riding up to Aceh from Medan Sumatra with my Garmin gps 62 I noticed:

1. When stuck behind buses/trucks we were commonly doing 15-20 kmh.

2. The "hot shot" buses passing them settled in around 35 kmh.

3. I felt like I personally was one of the fastest guys on the road... don't remember a bike ever passing me and rarely was I going above 75 kmh.

4. Medan - rarely saw 10 kmh !

5. Bandung - mostly below 20 kmh traffic... they have that toll road to Jakarta I'm guessing would be faster but are we even allowed on it?
Hi Ricky - sorry I missed you whilst your were in Bali. I'm still confined to my sofa btw.

The road that runs across the top of Sumbawa on the way to Bima can be ridden fast. The Harley riders from Java ride do tours all the way over there as its so straight and empty and in such good nick.

I've had my F8 up to about 140 kmh on that road a few years ago and could have opened it up even further if i had wanted to I guess , but to be honest road conditions are so unpredictable I kept on thinking a cow would wander onto the road or something, so only kept the bike at that speed for about 5 minutes before losing my bottle and slowing down to below 100 kmh.

I would agree that the majority of riding found here is sub 75 kmh. Its probably safer that way.

You don't really want to speed round a corner at 100 mh and find something like this



Interested to hear about your ride in Sumba. Which part of the island did you ride ?
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:25 PM   #5683
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Thanks period3.

F800 is on my list because if I buy it then I will sel my Monster. It's gonna be a one bike solution for me, a bike for commuting and also for touring on good road and bad roads.
Looking at your RR above Bob and the type of riding you do I think the F8 would be perfect for you. Or is it the F7 now ?
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Looking at your RR above Bob and the type of riding you do I think the F8 would be perfect for you. Or is it the F7 now ?
You can read my mind

I was set on F800 GS, I was 100% sure that it's gonna be my next bike.

Then last Firday evening, coming home from the office I parked my bike and I noticed there's something hanging on the rear tire. I took a closer look and it was a nail. It was bent and didn't seem to go too deep. After I have my tire repair kit ready I removed the nail, fortunatelly it didn't puncture the tire.

But I thought I better check the rest of the tire to see if it picked another nail. So I put the bike on a paddock and check the rear tire. Sure enaough there's another nail. This one went all the way in to ther tire and only the head was visible. I removed it and plugged the tire.

This tire only has about 2500 km on it and only about 3 months old, but it already picked 3 nails... two had to be plugged It's my second tire. I had to change the previous tire after it had a second puncture about 3 cm away from a first plugged puncture. I plugged the second puncture but a week later I noticed the area between the two plugged punctures slightly bulged. So I changed the tire.

Five nails in one year.

That's why I have a second thought on F8 and start to think maybe...maybe F7 will suit me better... cause it has tubeless tires. But other part of me also thought, hey just get the F8 and deal with any problem that might happen when it happens
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:40 PM   #5685
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After my trip from dili via kupang then boat to larantuka and up to bajo, boat to sape then ride to subawah then boat to lombok and down to lambar and boad to bali . I still reckon a 250 would do the job. Or a 400 would be perfect. Flores doesnt have any roads that can handle big capacity bikes. Sure lots of corners but in varying states of repair. My hp2 loved the backroads and with great suspension really was a buzz . But in the slow going traffic which was more common it was another story. Expect an ave speed of 40kph.
This was my experience anyway. Also tyre repairs are must easier in villages with out the big tough hard to change tyres of my bike and other large capcity adv bikes
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