Weapon storage.... - Page 6

Commuter Boy · 04-16-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spqr

Not my fault if the world at larger can't tell if the bolt is out of my smoke pole

No brandishing laws to worry about there?

ggrjr · 04-16-2009, 06:10 PM

Like some one brought up earlier. It used to be possibl to get a transport permit. I know several Coasties, that I grew up with who drove their vehicles, through Canada, on their way to Alaska, usig a transport permit with no issues. One of teh kids, that works for me has a NC CCW permit, and went to Canada to visit. He was able to get a transport permit, but it was a real PITA.

spqr · 04-16-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Commuter Boy

No brandishing laws to worry about there?

There has to be an element of Intent. We had none.

PaperBoy · 04-17-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spqr

There has to be an element of Intent. We had none.

Growing up in rural America, it wasn't unusual to see people walking through town with rifles on there way to and from the sporting goods store. Or, walking down the rural roads or with a gun strapped to a bicycle. Also, during hunting season, the hunters would check their rifles at the door with my dad who owned a popular tavern. He'd store them in back until it was time for the customer to go home or until the next day if that's what they wanted. Ranch and farm kids would have rifles in gun-racks in the pickup window, parked right outside the school (you never know when you're going to get an opportunity for a coyote or a nice buck on the way down from the "hills"). Point is, no kid back then, no matter how mad he might have been, ever ran out to the pickup to shoot someone at school. Sorry, off the point, but it does show how things have changed in America, even rural America as one of the many school shootings took place in rural Moses Lake, Wash. here in Eastern Washington (with a rifle, but not an assault weapon) in the 1996.

Canada has its own laws. It's another country and when we visit we are guests and our Canadian brothers and sisters are great hosts. We need to be respectful of their laws. If there is a legal way to bring a gun in then that's fine. If there isn't, leave it at home (or at a U.S. gun shop until you get back) or stay home. We expect visitors to our country to follow our laws, whether they agree with them or not, why should we expect people in other countries to expect any differently of us? Have a great ride and let us know how it went.

roscoau · 04-18-2009, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PenGun

You don't even need that. Guns are for cowards. People who are afraid.

I agree, but then I'm one of those 'poor downtrodden' people who have no freedom and can't choose to carry a gun - and I'm bloody glad of it!

If I need to take a gun when I go on a holiday, I don't want to go there.

achesley · 04-18-2009, 06:48 PM

The last time I went into Canada in '97, they were pretty serious about you not having a weapon with you. I was questioned pretty serious at the border when I told them I had left my weapon buried on the US side till I get back. I was smiling when I said it but it was a fact. :-).
I guess the best way is to contact the Canadian government on their web site to get a straight answer. I know , don't even think of it going to Mexico unless you are on one of those high buck hunting trips for doves.
Why do I carry? Guess that's like asking others why the eat so much, or stick their noses in others business. When out roaming the deserts on back roads, sometimes I like to stop and just target practice. ;-). It's not a need, it's a want.

KLRoger · 04-21-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PenGun

You don't even need that. Guns are for cowards. People who are afraid. Almost no one needs one outside of a war.

Darn and here I was carrying a pistol for over 20 years while I was a Deputy Sheriff. If I had only known I didn’t need one. Or wait maybe I was just a coward?
How come the States that have the harshest gun restrictions have the highest crime rates? Why has the crime rate dramatically risen down under after the gun turn in?
As for Canada leave the pistol home.

KLRoger · 04-21-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoau

I agree, but then I'm one of those 'poor downtrodden' people who have no freedom and can't choose to carry a gun - and I'm bloody glad of it!

If I need to take a gun when I go on a holiday, I don't want to go there.

Bummer we won't see you in the US then.

Have a nice ride.

dedsmurf · 04-21-2009, 11:03 AM

dont bring it to canada. i used to do IPSC competitive shooting and would have tons of trouble bringing restricted weapons BACK to canada that had fully been permitted to leave. restricted weapons are very difficult but you can get permits for hunting weapons... so carry a big 7.62 rifle... HAHA
anyway.. you dont need a handgun to travel.. especially in Canada and even in the US. ive been traveling all over the US without a gun and felt perfectly safe.. obviously you've never traveled overseas huh? i would could have used a Kalashnikov in the Sudan 10 years ago...

spqr · 04-21-2009, 12:25 PM

And now to push the thread all the way to Jomomma

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Originally Posted by KLRoger

Darn and here I was carrying a pistol for over 20 years while I was a Deputy Sheriff. If I had only known I didn’t need one. Or wait maybe I was just a coward?
How come the States that have the harshest gun restrictions have the highest crime rates? Why has the crime rate dramatically risen down under after the gun turn in?
As for Canada leave the pistol home.

Hmmm.. Number one weapon used to kill peace officers? Their OWN weapons. [IMG]images/icons/eek.gif[/IMG] I think Heinlein had it right. The problem with firearms, pistols in particular is that they make you feel ten feet tall and bullet proof. Guess what, no one is. Guns are not about security, or feeling safe. The are not about deterrence or security. Guns are about killing some one. The removal of a person from this world.

Now, if you want to travel armed, let me recommend the M1A2 Sep, when you absolutely positivly have to level the village, except no subsitutes.

Sorry about hijacking your thread dude, but somone has to throw the handgrenade in the fishpond.

pearlblue1800 · 04-21-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Commuter Boy

Understand in no uncertain terms that if you go through the steps of unlocking, loading, and firing the gun there is no self-defense pleading here, it's considered cold blooded murder. Keep it locked away till you get back in the US of A and you won't have any problems.

Other than that, have a great trip!

I would actually feel sorry for myself, and country if I felt that I needed to carry a firearm to feel secure. That inorder to defend my self, family, or even more rediculously property, I felt that lethal force was my only alternative.

Commuter Boy · 04-21-2009, 08:27 PM

They're tools, nothing more, nothing less. I was probably one of the few Canucks that grew up with handguns in the house so I'm a bit biased due to familiarity.

The original poster didn't make it political, has a legitimate reason for transporting the item and is doing his best to figure out how to do so legally and safely.

That alone should get him some respect, and it would be helpful if this ends up being the one Canadian gun thread that doesn't get tossed to the basement.

j911brick · 04-22-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JMead11

This seems to be the best advice in my opinion....I always carry here in the USA too, but it is just not worth considering to transport one in Canada....even worse to consider this problem for Mexico. I would plan on crossing at the same point and just find a gun store to hold them for you, or I am sure some ADV'er would be glad to hold them for you while you go over. For some reason or other, whenever I cross into Canada, they know I own firearms.....don't know if it was from a previous interview somewhere or that the USA shares information....don't know, but they about tore my bike down and went through everything including all the files in my laptop, so don't ever think you might sneak anything in. I must be a suspicious looking charachter.

Its BS! They did the same act on me once and I had never owned gun. I had been to Canada before and since and have never been bothered.

dwayne · 04-22-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by j911brick

Its BS! They did the same act on me once and I had never owned gun. I had been to Canada before and since and have never been bothered.

It was probably the Texas thing. You got profiled. Or they were just fishing.

dwayne · 04-22-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KLRoger

Darn and here I was carrying a pistol for over 20 years while I was a Deputy Sheriff. If I had only known I didn’t need one. Or wait maybe I was just a coward?
How come the States that have the harshest gun restrictions have the highest crime rates? Why has the crime rate dramatically risen down under after the gun turn in?
As for Canada leave the pistol home.

the gun control legislation is generally a RESPONSE to crime rates, not a cause.

Thanks for not carrying up here, we appreciate that.

04-16-2009, 06:10 PM	#77
ggrjr Studly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Statesville, NC Oddometer: 954	Like some one brought up earlier. It used to be possibl to get a transport permit. I know several Coasties, that I grew up with who drove their vehicles, through Canada, on their way to Alaska, usig a transport permit with no issues. One of teh kids, that works for me has a NC CCW permit, and went to Canada to visit. He was able to get a transport permit, but it was a real PITA. __________________ "If you are arguing with a fool, make sure they are not doing the same." 2005 DL 1000 93 VFR

04-18-2009, 06:48 PM	#81
achesley Old Motorcyclist Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Jennings, Louisiana Oddometer: 3,136	The last time I went into Canada in '97, they were pretty serious about you not having a weapon with you. I was questioned pretty serious at the border when I told them I had left my weapon buried on the US side till I get back. I was smiling when I said it but it was a fact. :-). I guess the best way is to contact the Canadian government on their web site to get a straight answer. I know , don't even think of it going to Mexico unless you are on one of those high buck hunting trips for doves. Why do I carry? Guess that's like asking others why the eat so much, or stick their noses in others business. When out roaming the deserts on back roads, sometimes I like to stop and just target practice. ;-). It's not a need, it's a want. __________________ An '00 KLR 650, An '07 1250S, An '03 5.3L Chevy Truck + '43 style dude , Simper Fi ;-)

04-21-2009, 11:03 AM	#84
dedsmurf Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Austin / Boston Oddometer: 387	no weapons in canada dont bring it to canada. i used to do IPSC competitive shooting and would have tons of trouble bringing restricted weapons BACK to canada that had fully been permitted to leave. restricted weapons are very difficult but you can get permits for hunting weapons... so carry a big 7.62 rifle... HAHA anyway.. you dont need a handgun to travel.. especially in Canada and even in the US. ive been traveling all over the US without a gun and felt perfectly safe.. obviously you've never traveled overseas huh? i would could have used a Kalashnikov in the Sudan 10 years ago... __________________ 09 GSA 05 DR650 08 XCR-W http://www.deakin.edu.au/individuals..._adm/DR650.pdf

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04-21-2009, 08:27 PM	#87
Commuter Boy Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Burnaby, BC Oddometer: 2,360	They're tools, nothing more, nothing less. I was probably one of the few Canucks that grew up with handguns in the house so I'm a bit biased due to familiarity. The original poster didn't make it political, has a legitimate reason for transporting the item and is doing his best to figure out how to do so legally and safely. That alone should get him some respect, and it would be helpful if this ends up being the one Canadian gun thread that doesn't get tossed to the basement.