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Old 04-23-2009, 01:22 PM   #46
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My tach works fine. Do you want any particulat type of info?

I've got the voltmeter on the other side, seems a lot more handy than a clock.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:40 PM   #47
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So, either the tach itself is bad or the "sending unit" or whatever drives it is bad.
First one maybe, second one no. The tach gets it's reading directly off the ground side of the coil (black wire), so if your "sender" (the coil itself) is bad then your bike won't run at all. I'd first check all your connections and if they all check out I'd say the fault is in the gauge somewhere in which case your best bet is probably to ship it off to a gauge repair shop.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:49 PM   #48
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There's a round 4-pin connector that runs it. It's called the Rev-Counter on the left side in Gimmeslack's wiring diagram:


Like wrangler said, the signal comes from the black wire straight from the coil. The grey wire should probably run the backlight and green/black will power the unit itself. Solid brown's ground everywhere on the harness.

Heck, it may not even be plugged up.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:16 PM   #49
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I am going to use the first post in this thread as an index to the major areas of work as I move forward. This post will continue to be updated as I move into the bike. A lot of the other great threads by other inmates here are just full of incredible information and ideas. Unfortunately, as the threads extend to multi-year maintenance and updates it is often hard to find specific parts. I thought doing an index in the first post might help if others wanted to refer to this thread in the future.

Key Dates

3-28-09 First Contact Established With Seller
3-29-09 Q&A Email Sessions and Multiple Lengthy Phone Conversations With Seller
4-03-09 Opinions Solicited From 5 Old Skool Inmates On The Deal
4-04-04 All Information Gathered. Other Bikes Ruled Out. Offer Prepared.
4-04-09 Deal Finalized.
4-10-09 Buyer Departs With Truck and Trailer To CA
4-11-09 Bike Purchased in Napa, CA
4-13-09 Bike Arrives Home in Colorado Springs, CO
4-14-09 Bike Is Insured, Registered, Titled, and Tagged In Colorado

Maintenance Index

Post #: TBD

Improvement Index

Post #: TBD


This will be developed over the next few months. Yes, I'm still OCD
Excellent thread. I'm looking at purchasing one. Thanks for all of the info.!
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:13 PM   #50
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Gee, I wish my bike had three lug nuts and wire wheels......




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Old 04-27-2009, 01:21 PM   #51
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As far as the cost of those overland solutions subframes, Malindi put together a pretty detailed budget for his trip and lists the price of the overland solutions subframe at $2,028.49, but that was a couple years ago. Infra, you in particular will like his budget. Very detailed. Go to his site and click on the money link on the left, then on 'costs.'

EDIT: Woops, forgot the link: http://nohorizons.net/index2.htm


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Old 05-01-2009, 07:42 AM   #52
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Minor Update - Better OM Pannier Racks

Haven't done a lot to the G/S other that ride it around a bit until I get my R100 together. But I did find a set of used pannier racks from placing a want ad on IBMWR site. A friend picked them up for me in Grand Junction and delivered them to me on Monday. They were structurally sound, not bent, but not as nice cosmetically as I was hoping. I got them like this. If you look at the area where the tape and bare metal were showing, I was a bit disappointed in the seller not letting me know they needed some work.








At this point I'm not into making any cosmetic changes to either of my airheads. I want to concentrate #1 on mechanical freshening and fixes and #2 to functional improvements like the Jesse's on the R100. But, what the heck. I've been so enthralled with people who do these ground up restorations on their bikes (Like JRP and Kbasa) that I just wanted to stub my toe in the water.

Did a Google search for blasters and powder coaters in my area. Looked for reports on Old Skool for anyone in my area who had done work. Asked a few friends. Could not find any first hand recommendations. So, looked again on Google and then called 3-4 places. Two of them only did painting or power coating but could not prep the pieces. The third one that I ended up using said they could do it all and do a lot of bicycles and motorcycle parts. Their web page showed some nice work. I was trying to find someone this time that would do good work and then give them my repeat business later when I do take one or both of the bikes down to the frame.

I ended up with these folks: Spectrum Powder Works. They're about 10 minutes away and, ironically, about 200 yards from the local BMW bike dealer. I knew I had found a possible source of coolness when I spotted a really nice VW bus in the parking lot that was lowered, had apparent engine work, and lots of stickers. Worked with them to tell them what I'd like, they told me what they recommended, and I left the parts on Tue. Told me Friday at the latest. They called on Thu morning.

Wow. Now I know why people think powder coating is like porn. I can't describe it but I know it when I see it. The parts looked great. I asked them to match another small piece (the cross brace) that didn't need to be coated and they did a great job for a small price. So, these are waiting to go on the bike next week.








I had neglected to remove the little rubber bumpers on the racks and they did that for me and then returned them in a plastic bag. Will definitely use them again as I move forward. I asked them if they could also work on pieces of aluminum to bring them back to original and they said yes. They do that all the time for a few car restorers. I am considering taking my front engine cover over and seeing if they can blast it back to normal look. I've spent about 5 hours now on it with Simple Green, wire brush, metal polish, etc.. and it still looks like shit. They said they can fix almost anything and have a variety of blasting media and even some sort of machine, not ultrasonic, but something like that, that works magic on old finishes.

That's it for now.

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Old 05-05-2009, 08:02 AM   #53
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Small Update

Got a package in the mail yesterday from the PO of the bike. Didn't get a chance to open it until this morning AS I WAS RIDING THE R100 all day.

Anyhow... Opened it this morning. It contains all of the service records, receipts, and notes the PO kept on the bike from 2003 until he sold it to me last month. The seller was in the midst of moving to a new home and had put a lot of their stuff in storage and could not find some stuff. Wow, this is great. I can see all the service records for stuff like spline lube (3 hours labor, $243 bucks, wow) and parts and such.

This allows me to reconstruct all that has happened to the bike for the last 6 years. Made my day.

Now that the R100 is on the road I plan on getting the 80 on the lift to change the fluids and adjust the valves by the end of the week.

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Old 05-10-2009, 07:39 PM   #54
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Haven't had too much time to work on the G/S lately. Been riding the R100 a bit and finally managed to snag one of these old 2-wheel trailers I've been eying for a few years. Gonna spend some time this summer working it over as well. This is a 1982 13' Burro. Company has long gone out of business but there is a fanatical following. Weighs just 1000 lbs.




Needs some freshening like tires, wheel bearings, and such.

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Old 05-10-2009, 07:42 PM   #55
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you'll need to reinforce the subframe before you mount the trailer hitch on the G/S
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:40 PM   #56
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Some basic maint questions

Finally got some time today to do some initial basic maintenance on the G/S and now have some observations and questions:

1. I didn't know that the G/S had oil in the driveshaft. I thought that ended with the /7 series. Really? 150cc of oil to replace. Easy to drain and easy to fill. Right now it's still draining.

2. Rear Drive: The drain plug is in the same place but something is wrong with the fill plug. Clymers's shows the fill plug is on the rear end of the final drive assembly. Kind of about the 9 o'clock position. And the hole is very small. Is this truly the right fill hole? Can't I just unscrew the big bolt up where the vent is and put the new Hypoid in there? If not. what the heck do you use the add the new fluid as it looks like it would have to go UP into the hole before it goes down into the final drive cavity.

3. Trannie is the same as my R100 for both drain and fill.

4. Engine drain is the same but the G/S has no oil cooler so it's a lot easier to remove the cover. My bike came with a white o-ring, 1 metal shim, and the gasket on the door. I am assuming I need to measure the depth of the canister the same as I did for the 100GS to make sure I don't need a $2000 o-ring?

Just simple stuff for now. Rode the bike today in 86F sunny weather and the lack of wind protection not such a big deal when it's nice.

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Old 05-18-2009, 10:57 PM   #57
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Finally got some time today to do some initial basic maintenance on the G/S and now have some observations and questions:

1. I didn't know that the G/S had oil in the driveshaft. I thought that ended with the /7 series. Really? 150cc of oil to replace. Easy to drain and easy to fill. Right now it's still draining.
As long as there is a cup of oil in there things should be fine. Optimum is 150 cc.

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2. Rear Drive: The drain plug is in the same place but something is wrong with the fill plug. Clymers's shows the fill plug is on the rear end of the final drive assembly. Kind of about the 9 o'clock position. And the hole is very small. Is this truly the right fill hole? Can't I just unscrew the big bolt up where the vent is and put the new Hypoid in there? If not. what the heck do you use the add the new fluid as it looks like it would have to go UP into the hole before it goes down into the final drive cavity.
Remove the vent. It is the fill hole. The back little guy is the check plug no one ever uses. Make sure it does not leak and just ignore it for life. Ensure that you can remove the vent plug before draining, because if you can't, at least you can get to a dealer to help you take it off. Same wiht the shaft plugs. The shaft plugs, top and bottom, are pretty fragile.


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4. Engine drain is the same but the G/S has no oil cooler so it's a lot easier to remove the cover. My bike came with a white o-ring, 1 metal shim, and the gasket on the door. I am assuming I need to measure the depth of the canister the same as I did for the 100GS to make sure I don't need a $2000 o-ring?
If the bike ran and the oil light never came on, no need to check the depth. Don't use a gasket. Filter > Shim > O Ring > cover. That's all you need. Use OX37 filters. They bend in the middle. Easier to install by a mile. Use some grease to keep the shim in the canister and the O ring on the cover. Makes life easier.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:12 AM   #58
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Malindi:

Thanks for the input. I will try to remove the final drive vent plug to use as a fill hole. I've already drained the final drive. Aren't you in the middle of a crisis right now?

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Old 05-19-2009, 07:56 AM   #59
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Malindi:

Thanks for the input. I will try to remove the final drive vent plug to use as a fill hole. I've already drained the final drive. Aren't you in the middle of a crisis right now?

Tom
Yes .... I'm in Portland with a dead tranny (wait, that didn't come out right )

I lost all my gears except 2nd gear, not a nice feeling. I made it to Portland later in the day (I was in White Salmon) and am holed up at friends. This morning I'll go get a pawl spring, gasket and a few other things. This afternoon I have the help of a local retired head who has the tools and knowledge to pop open the tranny and change the $2 spring and I'll be good to go ...
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a minor annoyance with the monolever is that the gearbox, driveshaft and FD will end up taking right around 1100 ml and the oil only comes in 1 Liter quantities.

The FD on my bike is disgusting. That vent sprays out oil all over the caked dirt making an oil mud sludge that covers everything back there. I must have overfilled it last time. Some folks run a vent hose out of there and route it high up to avoid the mess and to keep water out of the FD during a crossing.

The manual says the rear bolt is a level marker. You fill the FD up until you see oil come out of that back hole. I think when I filled mine I saw oil come out and put the plug in. I should have waited until the excess oil stopped seeping out.
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