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Old 04-17-2009, 10:52 AM   #16
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More DS tire choices...

Avon Distanzia or Gripster (limited sizes)
Bridgestone Trailwing or Battlewing
Continental Escape or TKC80
Dunlop D606 or D607
Duro HF903/904 Median
IRC GP110
Kenda K761
Maxxis C6006
Metzeler Tourance, Enduro3 Sahara, Karoo
Michelin Anakee
Pirelli MT21 or MT90 Scorpion
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:20 PM   #17
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Ok, I have to confess I'm a real dummy. All I know is the MT21's (and for 17" the avon distancias).

On my next set of tires I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of off road capability from the MT21's for longer wear. I know wear is so hard to rate ... the way I use the MT21's I would say they have a "1'/2 life of 700 miles and have lost all tread in the center by 4,500 miles. I know lots of guys who would throw their MT21's out after 700 miles. The guys that ALWAYS do that might incorrectly assume that the tread would be completely worn down by 1,400 miles (700 mile 1/2 life X 2). They do seem to wear slower as they go.

Anyone have a suggestion for something a bit better than trailwings off road but that could get double the mileage of a MT21?


Flashlights I think make a great comparison to tires re longevity. Check out the graph of this claimed 630 lumen flashlight that goes 130 hours on 8 AA batteries.

http://www.batteryjunction.com/fenix...lashlight.html

By 5 hours it's dropped well below 100 lumens ... you could keep using it for another 125 hours but your already less than 1/6th of the original output ... tough deciscion if your not using rechargeables :)
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:24 AM   #18
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Dual sport tire info at:


http://dr650.zenseeker.net/Tires.htm

and

http://www.standoutnet.com/extras/mi.../klr650/tires/
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:56 PM   #19
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Seems to me like offroad performance is a LOT more dependent on the rider. For example, I know there are plenty of guys here who could take a 100% street tire offroad and still kick my ass, even if I had titanium studs on my offroad tires!

On the other hand, if a tire is prone to slipping on the street, seems like it's gonna slip no matter who rides it (meaning the variability of pavement is less than what you'd find offroad).

It's also true that offroad performance seems to fall into two big categories:
DRY...and WET. Meaning a competent rider could probably get through just about anything offroad if it's bone-dry...but if you're talking mud, then all bets are off! (Although I suppose deep, fine dry sand is another one of those deal-breakers.)

I've done some pseudo-crazy offroading on my KLR with Avon Gripsters that are supposed to suck offroad...but then that was also on bone-dry, narrow forest trails with the tires aired down. I don't remember ever slipping once.

Scott

PS - After wearing out a set of Tourances on my Wee-Strom, I put a pair of Dunlop D-607s on it...and I like 'em! Better than the Tourances IMO, largely because they have a more rounded profile and really fall into corners faster and more smoothly.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:31 AM   #20
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Thanks for the links Dirtrider!
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:36 PM   #21
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IMO tire pressure has as much to do with handling and wear as tire design. I ran a set of TKC's at 30 psi and they were toast at 3000 kms (wore the center down to cords. Ran the next set at 22psi and they went over 7000 kms.
I'd say though that the best bang for buck I've used has been Kenda 270's. 6000 kms for a $50 tire is hard to beat. And I thought they handled pretty well to boot.
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:40 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by supertireguy
More DS tire choices...

Avon Distanzia or Gripster (limited sizes)
Bridgestone Trailwing or Battlewing
Continental Escape or TKC80
Dunlop D606 or D607
Duro HF903/904 Median
IRC GP110
Kenda K761
Maxxis C6006
Metzeler Tourance, Enduro3 Sahara, Karoo
Michelin Anakee
Pirelli MT21 or MT90 Scorpion
SuperTireGuy ... how does the MT90 Scorpion compare to the MT21?
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:12 AM   #23
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Any idea and comment about this;

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Old 04-20-2009, 11:44 AM   #24
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I know dual sport tires are a compromise. What I'm hoping for here is that with some more knowledgeable people than myself we could compile a database comparing dualsport tires to each other
I think you need to be somewhat specific about what kind of bike. Tire issues for a KTM 950 are completely different than for a KLR 650.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:55 PM   #25
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SuperTireGuy ... how does the MT90 Scorpion compare to the MT21?
MT90 Scorpions are street oriented tires that have a little grip in the dirt..

MT21's are dirt oriented knobby tires that have a little grip on the street. Knobby tires wear down quickly, especially with on-road use.

Do you want the extra grip on the street or grip in the dirt. Pick one.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:35 PM   #26
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These all work:
Kenda 270's
Metzler Karoo
Pirelli MT 21's

listed in order of road vs. pavement.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:22 PM   #27
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I concur with GSBS. One of the best all around Dual Sport tires on the market is the German made MEFO Explorer. They come in 17"/18" for the rear, and 19"/21" for the front. They are surprisingly smooth (drag a peg) handling on the road, and above average traction in the dirt. I have had 5 to 6K mileage out of them. I almost hate to comment on these tires, because they are becoming more popular, and with popularity comes an increase in price. Anyone that buys and try’s the MEFO Explorer will find it hard to find a more versatile tire!

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Old 04-22-2009, 06:45 AM   #28
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Any idea and comment about this;

Pirelli Scorpion Trail review here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382054
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:06 AM   #29
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100% subjective. Ride what you want to ride, not what people say is great. Too many sheeple on this topic, same as oil.
Too many sheeple?

I've tried Bridgestones, Metzlers, and Michelins. I prefer the feel of the Michelins. Does that make me a sheeple?
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:10 AM   #30
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Tube vs. Tubeless HELP!

Help! After careful study I bought some Heidenau tires for my 2004 KLR and did not even think about the fact that the tires on my bike have tubes! Will my tubeless tires go on these rims that appear to be for tube tires? What do I do about the hole where the valve-stem is and seating the bead? Obviously I'm clueless!!
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