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Old 05-02-2013, 01:34 PM   #20716
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Come to think of it I should fly him out here to Ct. I have some cock pants pirates that harass my local roads, maybe he's for hire
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:19 PM   #20717
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Glad you're ok too. Have you got any pics of the aftermath of the gear you were wearing? I'd like to see how that stuff worked out of you.
Regarding my Super Tenere Dragon crash from many pages ago (you guys move quick in this thread)...

Here is the whole ride report / story / crash details / pictures:

http://www.mikef5000.com/2013-ride-and-crash.html
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:35 PM   #20718
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Come to think of it I should fly him out here to Ct. I have some cock pants pirates that harass my local roads, maybe he's for hire

Go fuck yourself with a cactus.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:45 PM   #20719
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Regarding my Super Tenere Dragon crash from many pages ago (you guys move quick in this thread)...

Here is the whole ride report / story / crash details / pictures:

http://www.mikef5000.com/2013-ride-and-crash.html
MIKE.
Nice write up about your crash. The engine guard should be taken off the market assuming it was installed correctly.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:47 PM   #20720
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Go fuck yourself with a cactus.
Nice, no sense of humor I guess!
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:00 PM   #20721
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Regarding my Super Tenere Dragon crash from many pages ago (you guys move quick in this thread)...

Here is the whole ride report / story / crash details / pictures:

http://www.mikef5000.com/2013-ride-and-crash.html
Since you're okay, & I'm glad you are, I'll say it.

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The main cause of the accident appears to be my aftermarket skid plate.
No, poor body position contributing to grounding hard parts was the cause of the crash.

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Nice write up about your crash. The engine guard should be taken off the market assuming it was installed correctly.
And this is complete BS. Based on this way of thinking, all hard parts that might contact the pavement should be taken off the market.
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:25 PM   #20722
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Since you're okay, & I'm glad you are, I'll say it.



No, poor body position contributing to grounding hard parts was the cause of the crash.



And this is complete BS. Based on this way of thinking, all hard parts that might contact the pavement should be taken off the market.
I'm interested in hearing about what his correct body position should have been.
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:44 PM   #20723
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Since you're okay, & I'm glad you are, I'll say it.

No, poor body position contributing to grounding hard parts was the cause of the crash.

And this is complete BS. Based on this way of thinking, all hard parts that might contact the pavement should be taken off the market.
A race Body position could have helped, less speed would have helped more. I consider an upright body position standard on this type of bike, but I wasn't necessarily riding it in a 'standard' sort of way.

Regardless, it sounds like I'm blaming the bike/skid plate 100%. Which isn't intentional. I realize I was riding it. And picked those parts. And picked that speed in that corner. I guess I just moved on from those facts, to the 'reason' I went down, as opposed to the 'cause'. That make sense? I added a line in my website so it doesn't sound like I'm blaming everything but myself. I hate people like that.

Moving on... I gave more details about the skid plate in the Tenere thread, I still maintain that it's the best of the best for off roading, it's just worth noting that the peg feelers are the absolute end of the line with this plate in place.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:06 PM   #20724
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my pov? you were going to fast on THAT bike. kiss. cant blame any parts, they were on there when you left in the morning...
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:34 PM   #20725
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And this is complete BS. Based on this way of thinking, all hard parts that might contact the pavement should be taken off the market.
I call BS on your post.
A bash plate should not contact the ground in a turn. Foot peg feelers yes but not a bash plate. Poor design and should not be installed on a motorcycle. It should be tucked tight up against the frame and not extend outside the frame.
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:38 PM   #20726
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From the pics, I'd say MikeF and Huzband both are correct.

In aggressive riding, body position of hanging off bike, to the inside of a turn, and helping keeping the bike upright more, maintains a better contact patch. Better contact patch helps to keep front from washing out and crashing.

Now, in leaning through a turn, if parts stick out, they will hit the ground, causing tires to lose traction, and causing crash.

So both things are probably right.

Doesn't matter, does the bullet or the gun, do the killing?? Neither, the shooter does.

In anycase, from the pictures on the page, its hard to tell if the front washed out first and then the metal parts hit, or did the metals parts hit, causing to front end to wash out. Without video and slow mo, hard to say for sure. I am confident those two thing happened within fractions of a second of each other.

Mike, good job on the write up.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:53 PM   #20727
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Come to think of it I should fly him out here to Ct. I have some cock pants pirates that harass my local roads, maybe he's for hire
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:01 AM   #20728
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I call BS on your post.
A bash plate should not contact the ground in a turn. Foot peg feelers yes but not a bash plate. Poor design and should not be installed on a motorcycle. It should be tucked tight up against the frame and not extend outside the frame.

I understand what your saying but I look at it this way. I have 98 Jeep Wrangler.....in stock form I can corner that thing almost as good as a car. However I have lifted 6" and put on 36" Super Swamper tires....now it handles like a wallowing pig...If I drive it the same as I did when it was stock. I'd flip it. However its off-road performance has been enhanced considerably. It was a trade off. I don't think all aftermarket lift kits should be pulled from the market because it effects the road handling.

Those who run the Rumbox plate should know that aggressive riding could lead to this happening....
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:05 AM   #20729
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I'm interested in hearing about what his correct body position should have been.
He doesn't necessarily need to have his but off the seat, but rather butt back, upper torso forward & inside, as if to kiss the mirror. For examlpe;



Although that was shot at a track day, that's not a so-called race position. That's my everyday riding style, especially in the mountains. Maximizes contact patch & minimizes lean angle are just two benefits.

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:25 AM   #20730
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He doesn't necessarily need to have his but off the seat, but rather butt back, upper torso forward & inside, as if to kiss the mirror.
That's how I do it too. I've got a bad hip and no knee sliders, so "kissing the mirror" works well for me.
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