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Old 10-24-2013, 02:51 PM   #25036
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I find that I INSTINCTIVELY hit the breaks everytime I see a cop too.
To do that while cornering hard, you'd have to be an idiot and your instincts would make you a candidate for a Darwin award. Or to put it another way, if you would grab a handful of brake mid-corner and CRASH when you see a cop, your instincts suck.

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What I still find dirty in all this is the cops intent. If he's there to control speeding, WHY would he sit hidden at the APEX of the turn (slowest point).
Nothing "dirty" about the cop. Marked unit in plain sight. If it's like you say and it's the slowest point, if a rider is speeding there, then he's definitely speeding, so he is giving riders a break! You want the cop to stop in the middle of a long straight so that riders can see him from a long distance away and slow down before getting to the cop? Yeah, that's what you want.

Saying that a speed cop sitting where he can catch speeders is "dirty" is a whiny crybaby delicate little flower thing to say. The saying is "don't do the crime if you can't do the time", maybe there ought to be another one "don't do the crime if you'd crash when you realize someone saw you doing it". What's next, somebody who robbed a convenience store trying to sue the cops because when he ran outside there was a cop car and he was so surprised he tripped over a parking bumper and broke his face?

Really, if a cop seeing you speeding makes you crash, then you shouldn't be speeding. Maybe you shouldn't be riding.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:13 PM   #25037
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:12 PM   #25038
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I thought kids needed to be able to flat foot the pegs to be able to ride...legally?


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Old 10-24-2013, 04:19 PM   #25039
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I don't think so, I would think he weighs in at least around 300.
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:36 PM   #25040
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I thought kids needed to be able to flat foot the pegs to be able to ride...legally?
For us in Wisconsin they do.

Of course, I see kids under the age of 12, unbelted, in the front seat of cars as well as unbelted kids moving around in minivans all the time on my commute to Minneapolis.

It used to bother me, but I figure that if those people don't give a toss about their kids, neither do I.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:15 PM   #25041
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But here's the "funny" part and what it feels like the two of you fail to see in all this. Judging by the preceding seconds before the crash, the guy was NOT riding "out of control". I blame the cop purely from the standpoint that he picked a very dirty place to sit (mid-corner). This guy comes into the turn fine, sees the cop and INSTINCTIVELY hits the breaks which is the cause of this crash. I find that I INSTINCTIVELY hit the breaks everytime I see a cop too. To me this is a simple case of classical conditioning (see Pavlov's dog).

What I still find dirty in all this is the cops intent. If he's there to control speeding, WHY would he sit hidden at the APEX of the turn (slowest point). If he really wanted to control/enforce speeding, he should be positioned at a place whereby he could actually hit a rider with laser/radar before reaching his turn-in point. Please educate me on why this is a good place for a LEO to park unless looking to invoke the response that he got with a bike tucking the front end by touching the brakes?
Reacting to the sight of the cop, hitting the brakes, is an admission of
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:22 PM   #25042
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Reacting to the sight of the cop, hitting the brakes, is an admission of
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Absolutely not. Read your state's laws. I haven't seen a state yet that doesn't have a requirement to slow down and move away (normally left) from any law enforcement or emergency vehicle on the side of the road.



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Old 10-24-2013, 05:23 PM   #25043
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Reacting to the sight of the cop, hitting the brakes, is an admission of
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and crashing is his way of saying "im sorry"
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:55 PM   #25044
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Absolutely not. Read your state's laws. I haven't seen a state yet that doesn't have a requirement to slow down and move away (normally left) from any law enforcement or emergency vehicle on the side of the road.



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I though it was slow down or move over.. Could be wrong though.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:39 PM   #25045
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I though it was slow down or move over.. Could be wrong though.
Most states are slow down and move over.

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Old 10-24-2013, 08:32 PM   #25046
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Most states are slow down and move over.
...if safe and able.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:23 PM   #25047
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To do that while cornering hard, you'd have to be an idiot and your instincts would make you a candidate for a Darwin award. Or to put it another way, if you would grab a handful of brake mid-corner and CRASH when you see a cop, your instincts suck.

Nothing "dirty" about the cop. Marked unit in plain sight. If it's like you say and it's the slowest point, if a rider is speeding there, then he's definitely speeding, so he is giving riders a break! You want the cop to stop in the middle of a long straight so that riders can see him from a long distance away and slow down before getting to the cop? Yeah, that's what you want.

Saying that a speed cop sitting where he can catch speeders is "dirty" is a whiny crybaby delicate little flower thing to say. The saying is "don't do the crime if you can't do the time", maybe there ought to be another one "don't do the crime if you'd crash when you realize someone saw you doing it". What's next, somebody who robbed a convenience store trying to sue the cops because when he ran outside there was a cop car and he was so surprised he tripped over a parking bumper and broke his face?

Really, if a cop seeing you speeding makes you crash, then you shouldn't be speeding. Maybe you shouldn't be riding.
Nope, nothing dirty. There aren't too many spaces for a car to pull completely off the road. He is at the first one just below the hairpin where a lot of photogs hang out. It is also the same hairpin that everyone seems to go down on.

Ride this road a lot and the cops are pretty lenient, for the most part (not always). I have seen some massive enforcement blitz going on, but that is usually on Kanan coming up from PCH. Seems that the CHP will show up a little late in the afternoon, just to let everyone know that its time to shut it down.

Best one was watching the guy coming up from the hairpin, on the back wheel, just as a CHP turned down from above. The cop just stopped, pointed and shook his head at the guy on the bike.


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Old 10-24-2013, 11:51 PM   #25048
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...if safe and able.
If you're riding at a speed that you can't safely comply with the law, perhaps you deserve a ticket, hm?
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:00 AM   #25049
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:43 AM   #25050
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Most states are slow down and move over.

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The signs say change lanes or reduce speed, but the angry Mass cop who gave me the $100 ticket said CHANGE LANES OR IF YOU CAN'T CHANGE LANES SLOW DOWN. I was going 55 on I-95 in the right lane. He was behind a row of barrels with his lights flashing. I was driving a small reefer, left lanes were empty.
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