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Old 02-28-2014, 07:56 PM   #26521
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I few years back I met Yellow Wolf at Deals Gap when he was filming other people riding the gap. I asked what he did about fast guys on sport bikes that wanted video. He said, "I just tell them that if they leave me behind the video won't be very good." No drama and no ego. However......very few people are good enough to leave him behind. After all he did make money following and filming "fast guys" from a Goldwing loaded with video gear.
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:21 PM   #26522
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:16 PM   #26523
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This pretty much proves my point, the legendary, god-like rider on the mini-winne is pretty much maxed out in lean angle while the Duck rider has large amounts of room to go faster (although he is not using it). Possible conclusions are that: A the Duck rider isn't skilled enough to use his bike to it's fullest. B the Duck rider isn't trying. C. they are riding together. D. the Duck rider doesn't care.
If the duck rider had the skills or put the effort into it, the mini-winne wouldn't even be in the picture...doesn't matter how good of a rider is on it.
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Old 03-01-2014, 12:32 AM   #26524
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There's the obvious point that any time you are riding at speeds that exceed your ability to stop within your sight lines on the public road you are exceeding the third of the triumvirate of crucial limits one needs to stay within if you want to stay alive. Attaining perfect Marc Marquez style form, as your elbow skims the Tarmac mid-corner, while the tyres gently drift on the perfectly judged edge of adhesion at the very limits of your litre superbike is all very well, but if you slam into the back of a broken down Winnebago a quarter of a second later you are still a dick responsible for your own misfortune, just as much as the guy who levers the tyres of his Harley couchomatic off the ground at 25mph in a shower of sparks or the eejit on a Ducati Panigale who grabs a handful of front brake mid corner at the same speed because he has no clue what he is doing and is blissfully unaware of his lack of skill...

Admittedly crashes resulting from running out of talent or of motorcycle look better in pictures & videos, but otherwise it's just another balls up...
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:41 AM   #26525
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Yes now you ask, that trike does make your wife's ass look smaller.
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:50 AM   #26526
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Laugh

Why are you trying to brag up someone elses riding skills? What about yours? Do you drag pegs riding around florida?[/QUOTE]


Why yes I do. We only have ONE curve in Flaw'da and with 45 years experience ring it, I do in fact know "The perfect Line".
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:01 AM   #26527
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There's the obvious point that any time you are riding at speeds that exceed your ability to stop within your sight lines on the public road you are exceeding the third of the triumvirate of crucial limits one needs to stay within if you want to stay alive. Attaining perfect Marc Marquez style form, as your elbow skims the Tarmac mid-corner, while the tyres gently drift on the perfectly judged edge of adhesion at the very limits of your litre superbike is all very well, but if you slam into the back of a broken down Winnebago a quarter of a second later you are still a dick responsible for your own misfortune, just as much as the guy who levers the tyres of his Harley couchomatic off the ground at 25mph in a shower of sparks or the eejit on a Ducati Panigale who grabs a handful of front brake mid corner at the same speed because he has no clue what he is doing and is blissfully unaware of his lack of skill...

Admittedly crashes resulting from running out of talent or of motorcycle look better in pictures & videos, but otherwise it's just another balls up...
Spot on,100% the right answer
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:14 AM   #26528
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There's the obvious point that any time you are riding at speeds that exceed your ability to stop within your sight lines on the public road you are exceeding the third of the triumvirate of crucial limits one needs to stay within if you want to stay alive. Attaining perfect Marc Marquez style form, as your elbow skims the Tarmac mid-corner, while the tyres gently drift on the perfectly judged edge of adhesion at the very limits of your litre superbike is all very well, but if you slam into the back of a broken down Winnebago a quarter of a second later you are still a dick responsible for your own misfortune, just as much as the guy who levers the tyres of his Harley couchomatic off the ground at 25mph in a shower of sparks or the eejit on a Ducati Panigale who grabs a handful of front brake mid corner at the same speed because he has no clue what he is doing and is blissfully unaware of his lack of skill...

Admittedly crashes resulting from running out of talent or of motorcycle look better in pictures & videos, but otherwise it's just another balls up...
Beautifully stated... Can I steal that to share elsewhere?
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:32 AM   #26529
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There's the obvious point that any time you are riding at speeds that exceed your ability to stop within your sight lines on the public road you are exceeding the third of the triumvirate of crucial limits one needs to stay within if you want to stay alive. ...
To be honest, can you tell from the picture how fast they are going? Can you tell if either is outriding their line of sight? It looks like there is plenty of visibility from the picture. Maybe you know the road and I don't. If you want to pull the safety-crate card (which is fine with me), which rider has pushed his bike to the limit and left himself little if any margin for error? Based on the picture, it's easily the god-like figure riding the mini-winne. The guy on the Duck has plenty of room to make adjustments if he has the skills to do so. It's all about riding beyond the capabilities of you and/or your machine.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:53 AM   #26530
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PJFZ1, please feel free to quote away :-).

Homey, my point was aimed at those who were faintly sneering at the Duke rider for not dragging knees. It's possible that the Winger is close to the limit of his bike but not over the limit of the road, but that's a Goldwing for you :-)


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Old 03-01-2014, 08:56 AM   #26531
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this thread is a hoot...

So many of you are missing the point... Flogging a bike, ANY bike, is the point. Some enjoy pushing the bike while others don't. I have different bikes for this reason.

I don't see the logic in bashing those who are not flogging their bikes.

Rick is going to push his wing as hard as he feels like pushing. Well known for his abilities on the wing we all know you can not compare a wing to a sport bike so why even discuss wing vs sport bike? There isn't anything to validate this guy is better than that guy when the machines are not even in the same class.

If you must do a pissing contest, lets talk about night riding. On the gap night riding is the only time I can really enjoy my ride. No cops and very little traffic.
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:22 AM   #26532
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...Rick is going to push his wing as hard as he feels like pushing. Well known for his abilities on the wing we all know you can not compare a wing to a sport bike so why even discuss wing vs sport bike? There isn't anything to validate this guy is better than that guy when the machines are not even in the same class....
My issue is that we don't all know that you can't compare a wing to a sportbike. Rick (I assume that is is name) may be a very good rider but some people around here think he is some kind of motorcycle god because he can scoot around pretty quick on a Goldwing and will lay waste to any sportbike rider who dares think he/she may be faster than him. Maybe it's just human nature to just ignore reality....
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:24 AM   #26533
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...Homey, my point was aimed at those who were faintly sneering at the Duke rider for not dragging knees. It's possible that the Winger is close to the limit of his bike but not over the limit of the road, but that's a Goldwing for you :-)
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Old 03-01-2014, 12:10 PM   #26534
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My issue is that we don't all know that you can't compare a wing to a sportbike.
Why would you care?
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:56 PM   #26535
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This pretty much proves my point, the legendary, god-like rider on the mini-winne is pretty much maxed out in lean angle while the Duck rider has large amounts of room to go faster (although he is not using it). Possible conclusions are that: A the Duck rider isn't skilled enough to use his bike to it's fullest. B the Duck rider isn't trying. C. they are riding together. D. the Duck rider doesn't care.
If the duck rider had the skills or put the effort into it, the mini-winne wouldn't even be in the picture...doesn't matter how good of a rider is on it.
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