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Old 10-09-2011, 11:21 PM   #3316
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:37 PM   #3317
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At the 3 second mark he blips the throttle after he pulls in clutch.
I see what your talking about, the sound happens at the same time he pulls the clutch in. I don't think that's a throttle blip, cause after that sound the motor has clearly not been revved up. To me it sounds more like running over rumple strip, though I don't think that's what it was.
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:19 AM   #3318
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I can't tell for sure, but dollars to doughnuts, that's the "Speeders" Douchebag...

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Old 10-10-2011, 01:25 AM   #3319
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Video posted on another forum (not by me!). Rider's description of what happened below:

"coming down 'the 152 curves' on the 89 other side of jerome. i was riding way too aggressive on an unfamiliar road and not paying attention to the actual road surface.

asphalt was new so still pretty smooth/slick and the rear broke loose on downshift and came out. i was not going to get it back so i got on the front brakes as well and counter steered for the soft-er stuff. got it down to 20mph before it left the road.

at least that is the way i remember it. it happened pretty darn quick.

i regularly take corners like this at 35mph with complete confidence but all of my canyon carving experience has been on mature surfaces.

i think over-confidence and a lack of experience were primary factors in this case.


i was geared up, no injuries (just sore), moderate non-fatal damage to the bike. duct tape, a coat hanger and some redneck engineering prevented this spill from terminating a 400 mile ride for 3 people halfway in.

patched up the bike and finished the second 200 miles with no further incidents.

pics of the damage and roadside redneck engineering to follow.

OK guys, i am ready to take my lumps - fire away.
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:26 AM   #3320
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All I see is a handful of clutch and the rear is already waggin, the RPM's never stop dropping so he doesn't let the clutch out nor blip the throttle.

He panicked, grabbed the clutch, hit the rear brake and drove the bike off the road.
Actually, once he had decided he was not going to make the corner, I think he did the right thing to ride off the road. That's a lot better than hitting that guard rail.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:02 AM   #3321
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:30 AM   #3322
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All I see is a handful of clutch and the rear is already waggin, the RPM's never stop dropping so he doesn't let the clutch out nor blip the throttle.

He panicked, grabbed the clutch, hit the rear brake and drove the bike off the road.

That is how i see it too, plus TERRIBLE lines, he finished the rh bend in the middle of the lane, then drifted to the center line and apexing BEFORE he even reached the corner. Classic panic/target fixation accident. I do not agree the did the right thing going off the road, an accident is an accident.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:36 AM   #3323
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:38 AM   #3324
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:44 AM   #3325
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Video posted on another forum (not by me!). Rider's description of what happened below:

"coming down 'the 152 curves' on the 89 other side of jerome. i was riding way too aggressive on an unfamiliar road and not paying attention to the actual road surface.

asphalt was new so still pretty smooth/slick and the rear broke loose on downshift and came out. i was not going to get it back so i got on the front brakes as well and counter steered for the soft-er stuff. got it down to 20mph before it left the road.

at least that is the way i remember it. it happened pretty darn quick.

i regularly take corners like this at 35mph with complete confidence but all of my canyon carving experience has been on mature surfaces.

i think over-confidence and a lack of experience were primary factors in this case.


i was geared up, no injuries (just sore), moderate non-fatal damage to the bike. duct tape, a coat hanger and some redneck engineering prevented this spill from terminating a 400 mile ride for 3 people halfway in.

patched up the bike and finished the second 200 miles with no further incidents.

pics of the damage and roadside redneck engineering to follow.

OK guys, i am ready to take my lumps - fire away."
He had to "lay her down" 'cause the new asphalt was too smooth and grippy? The "new" asphalt on US89 is way better than the old rough stuff it replaced.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:00 AM   #3326
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:47 AM   #3327
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Actually, once he had decided he was not going to make the corner, I think he did the right thing to ride off the road. That's a lot better than hitting that guard rail.
I think there were more than two choices here. I didn't see at as "go off the road" or "hit the guardrail". I saw a third alternative as get back on the gas (off the brakes or off the engine braking) and lean that bitch. Now, I agree completely about his atrocious line but that choice had already been made.

Back many years ago (heading to the races in Henderson , Texas in a very mixed group) I saw a GSXR 750 run through a barbed wire fence on a similar corner while following a Guzzi with a sidecar. I was two bikes behind him. He "decided he was not going to make the corner". He stood the bike straight up and slammed on the binders and rode it straight off the road. The Guzzi made it easy. Now that's a sight that will stick with you for a lifetime.


But, maybe with sound this video would "look" different to me. With the limited data I have , I really think he could have made that corner even with his shitty line.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:13 AM   #3328
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I think there were more than two choices here. I didn't see at as "go off the road" or "hit the guardrail". I saw a third alternative as get back on the gas (off the brakes or off the engine braking) and lean that bitch. Now, I agree completely about his atrocious line but that choice had already been made.
On most bikes I would agree BUT… He is on a Softail so his poor choice of line did NOT allow for the "get back on the gas" option. He would have pivoted his tires off the ground and slid into the Guardrail.

The lean angle on the bike was likely about 25 deg. before hitting hard parts. Softails are boulevard cruisers and NOT meant for twisties with pilots that do not know how to ride (and the limits of the bike)
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:23 AM   #3329
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On most bikes I would agree BUT… He is on a Softail so his poor choice of line did NOT allow for the "get back on the gas" option.
I haven't owned a softail since 95 (my 93 Fatboy) so maybe I've forgotten how limited they were on lean angle. My memory ain't what it used to be so, I'll bow out and leave it to those with more current knowledge. But dang.......
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:31 AM   #3330
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Here's one posted over on Pashnit:

Honda CBR 954RR CRASH from Jdog 109socal on Vimeo.



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