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Old 12-19-2011, 05:29 AM   #5101
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"Well I really did ride a good part of the Dragon standing up on the pegs. The torque range, brakes and suspension of the GS made it sort of easy. To me, a GS is a really good match for the tightness and undulations of Deal's Gap."

"I think a good rider on a GS would beat the socks off a good rider of any other bike (that I know of anyway) in the GAP."



Replace GS ^^^ with any make/model supermoto and it doesn't sound so silly.



Trying to explain something lightweight and fun to a BMW owner is like... Well... There's sorta nothing like it.

But it usually ends up like this; "I didn't know they made bikes so lightweight and responsive."


Ehh, 10 miles and he'd be bitching about the seat anyway...
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:29 AM   #5102
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Right hand brake by default on most bicycles is the rear brake
That's why any bicycles I've had, the front and rear brake levers were switched. Front brake should be on the right.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:29 AM   #5103
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"Well I really did ride a good part of the Dragon standing up on the pegs. The torque range, brakes and suspension of the GS made it sort of easy. To me, a GS is a really good match for the tightness and undulations of Deal's Gap."

"I think a good rider on a GS would beat the socks off a good rider of any other bike (that I know of anyway) in the GAP."



Replace GS ^^^ with any make/model supermoto and it doesn't sound so silly.

The reality is that the majority of riders aren't all that fast. A fast rider on ANY type of bike will be faster than most of the riders there.

Having owned a R1100GS and having ridden it through Deals Gap 100+ times I can say that big adventure bikes do work very well on roads like Deals Gap. It actually has much lighter steering than most sport bikes, even the 600s.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:42 AM   #5104
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Yeah, and it looks like she can ride, too.


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We have a lot of that around here.
I forget how odd it is for people from other places.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:42 AM   #5105
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Trying to explain something lightweight and fun to a BMW owner is like... Well... There's sorta nothing like it.

But it usually ends up like this; "I didn't know they made bikes so lightweight and responsive."


Ehh, 10 miles and he'd be bitching about the seat anyway...
Showing your ignorance, yet again!

Many BMW GS owners also own other bikes, often light weight dirt bikes!

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Old 12-19-2011, 07:03 AM   #5106
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granted I am new to riding and do not own a " sport bike" but surly all that hanging off the bike that guy is doing is un necessary to make that turn . to me,, and only my opion , he looks ridicules , hanging off the bike like that
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:09 AM   #5107
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I think a good rider on a GS would beat the socks off a good rider of any other bike (that I know of anyway) in the GAP. I know I have kept up with a couple of those well ridden one-piece-knee-putting-down big sport bikes on while my bike had worn-out shocks. While I was riding two up. I'm a good rider, but far from a great rider.


A modern supermoto? Maybe.

A GS? Laughable.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:10 AM   #5108
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The hits just keep on coming with you don't they?

I know plenty of Rider Coaches who can ride the range like a rock star too, doesn't mean they can do much in the real world. When they find a keyboard the first 1,000 words are all about trying to prove they're an expert followed by a quick climb onto a trojan horse. 1,000 miles a year in parking lots doesn't mean shit.

Credibility... You don't has it.
Really, You of all people want to question someone else's riding ability,

Ride with me then you can say what ever you like.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:14 AM   #5109
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A modern supermoto? Maybe.

A GS? Laughable.
Have you actually ridden a GS on a tight twisty road? It's much easier to ride fast on a tight road on a GS than a Sport bike. Of course, a light weight DS or SM is even easier.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:31 AM   #5110
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Have you actually ridden a GS on a tight twisty road? It's much easier to ride fast on a tight road on a GS than a Sport bike. Of course, a light weight DS or SM is even easier.
I've got conti trail attack's, blacktop tyre despite it's name, on my 990, i usually end up waiting for mate's on sport's bike's, that is on really twisty bit's, once the road open's up, we're more equal, on the straight's they get away a bit.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:15 AM   #5111
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:29 AM   #5112
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It's amazing how well some people can ski without poles and how fast and smooth some riders can go without hanging off the bike like a monkey on crack...

Hanging off is to sport bikes what loud pipes are to Harleys.
Actually, it helps me get around the track quite a bit better.
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:32 AM   #5113
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This thread has turned from Killboy failure

To


THREAD FAILURE





Stop all the talk about technique, etc



and post some pictures!!


I'm deployed overseas and bikeless - show me some KILLBOY FAILs!!!

The lack of new photos can probably be attributed to this...

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Old 12-19-2011, 09:34 AM   #5114
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The lack of new photos can probably be attributed to this...

Man, I hate snow...except when I have my "cat" at home... which I don't...
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:36 AM   #5115
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The reality is that the majority of riders aren't all that fast. A fast rider on ANY type of bike will be faster than most of the riders there.

Having owned a R1100GS and having ridden it through Deals Gap 100+ times I can say that big adventure bikes do work very well on roads like Deals Gap. It actually has much lighter steering than most sport bikes, even the 600s.
This is by design.

My Speed Triple is MUCH easier to steer at speed as long as my ass stays on the seat, the second the speed rises to the point that the pegs start touching, the 675 is easier to steer because the bike's egros are designed for the rider to be....

wait for it.....

hanging off

The Speed Triple bends your wrists into a bad place when you start monkeying around on it for real, this is the reason I have both clip-on and a handlebar from when it was my only bike. Sportbikes have the low clip on to facilitate hanging off the side of the damn bike. That is why they are so tall, that is why they are damn uncomfortable.

Considering that ergonomically the idea riding position for any bike is with the lower arm parallel to the ground this damn near puts my check on the tank of the Daytona and I'm 6' with a 34" sleeve and 32' inseam, I'm all torso and arms.
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