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Old 06-27-2004, 07:52 PM   #1
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Low pipe, full left bag mod questions....

Hello all, looking to tap everyones knowledge on my latest mod.

I want to move the pipe to the low mounting style and add a full size left bag.

What parts are needed to get this job done? (for a 2004 GS).

I'm wondering about the passenger peg mount/forward bag mount.
Does this need to be changed?

Lastly, will a set of bags off a 1996 R1100RS fit my 2004 GS with the low pipe mod?

Any help/advice is always much appreciated!
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Old 06-27-2004, 10:46 PM   #2
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Low pipe, full left bag mod questions....

Check out the July issue of Motorcycle Consumer News, there is a story of just what you want to do. I just got the mag so I can't tell you what they did other than order the official BMW Police model pipe lowering piece and other stuff.
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:16 AM   #3
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A friend has a 2003 Adventure and he just added a bent piece of pipe to his muffler and lowered the original. Manufacturing up a lower bracket to hold the muffler isn't too much of a hassle.

This may be a possibility for your machine.

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Old 06-28-2004, 10:22 AM   #4
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Yes, the full size bags from your RS will fit the GS once the pipe is lowered. I kept the bags from my '94 RS and have them on my '01 GS now. One problem with the MCN article referenced is if you do indeed want to install the full-size BMW System cases, they do not address the fact that the bag's lower forward support/mount point is different. On the GS half case, that bag mates to the stock passenger peg mount/forward bag mount. The full-size case's mounting point is about four inches inboard of that. The MCN article, that talks about installing the BMW GS Police bike pipe lowering kit, is great if you want to use aftermarket bags as there is no provision for an inboard bag mount (at least the article doesn't mention one).

I used a Wudo pipe lowering kit on my bike, which comes with an inboard bag mount. Alignment with the kit is a little off, as the rear end of the pipe would be angled way outboard if installed exactly per their instructions. I worked things around to get the pipe fairly parallel with the rest of the bike. The Wudo kit came with only one clamp, as they expect you to use the stock clamp/heatshield assembly as the other required clamp. That just looked too weird for me, and BMW wanted about $20 for their clamp, so a pair of hose clamps from the auto parts store for $1.39 completed my installation. Other than that, the Wudo kit is complete for your conversion. The front of the muffler with no heat shield is not very pretty, but I didn't buy this bike for its looks anyway. Good luck.
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:33 PM   #5
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Don't waste your $$ on the lowering kit. Just remove the muffler and replace it with an inch and three quarter ID tail pipe turn down...available at most automotive stores. It is held in place with a muffler clamp. Then, buy your accessory to use the larger inner pannier and you're in business w/o spending lots of money. And, your bike sounds a bit better
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Old 06-28-2004, 08:53 PM   #6
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MCN article

Thanks for the great responses. I'm going to go for it.

Does anyone have the July issue of Motorcycle Consumer News and would be willing to fax or scan and e mail the article about the low pipe/full bag.

I've tried to find it on a news stand and no one carries that rag.

Also, anyone have a BMW P/N for the left lower forward bag/peg mount to use for the full bag?
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:46 PM   #7
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Don't waste your $$ on the lowering kit. Just remove the muffler and replace it with an inch and three quarter ID tail pipe turn down...available at most automotive stores. It is held in place with a muffler clamp. Then, buy your accessory to use the larger inner pannier and you're in business w/o spending lots of money. And, your bike sounds a bit better
Just curious from those in the know - would doing this mod void the warranty on Ryde2live's shiny new '04 if the engine ever burped, spit, or puked?
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Old 06-29-2004, 01:22 PM   #8
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Just curious from those in the know - would doing this mod void the warranty on Ryde2live's shiny new '04 if the engine ever burped, spit, or puked?
If yur worried, buy the BMW lowering kit for about $150
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Old 06-29-2004, 08:27 PM   #9
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i've seen a bracket that covered this job for less than the BMW kit; by a company called 'ZMW', i believe.

then again, if you go with a Staintune low pipe, it'll include the necessary brackets for lowering and relocating the bag mount also.


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Old 06-29-2004, 09:08 PM   #10
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Low pipe, full left bag mod questions....

I yanked the muffler off today. I bought a 1 3/4 ID 45 degree tail pipe for $3.99 and a muffler clamp for $.99.

I tried to post a pic unsuccessfully, maybe someone could give me a hint how.

Let's see, if the stock muffler weighs 22lbs. that means I can gain that much more. Alright! How much more can I remove!!!
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Old 06-29-2004, 09:10 PM   #11
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Low pipe, full left bag mod questions....

Never mind about the help. Here's another pic:
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Old 06-29-2004, 09:52 PM   #12
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here's the thing, the full-size RT bag needs a different anchor point, the stock GS point (off the passenger pegs) is too far out. You can fabricate something easy enough.

I went with Staintune full kit low pipe at 4000 miles back in Y2K. Sounds great, holds up, and had the correct bracket. And with the larger bag, you can carry hella more stuff, like extra hair pomade for longer trips away from home.

The high pipe, skinny bag is the stupidest thing BMW ever put on a bike.
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Old 06-29-2004, 09:58 PM   #13
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HAHAHA...too funny.

You took off the heavy 22 lb. tailpipe and "improved" the noise but you left the 30 lb catalytic that would improve your mid range power if you removed it and reducing the heat at the drive train a lot. Seems a good choice to me....
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Old 06-29-2004, 11:31 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Ryde2live
Hello all, looking to tap everyones knowledge on my latest mod.

I want to move the pipe to the low mounting style and add a full size left bag.

What parts are needed to get this job done? (for a 2004 GS).

I'm wondering about the passenger peg mount/forward bag mount.
Does this need to be changed?

Lastly, will a set of bags off a 1996 R1100RS fit my 2004 GS with the low pipe mod?

Any help/advice is always much appreciated!
Staintune make a lower muffler, and supply the modified bracket to take the full size BMW case on the left. It is a relatively cheap option.
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Old 06-30-2004, 10:11 AM   #15
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anybody know of a place that sells just the staintune pannier attachment bracket, without the purchase of a new exhaust? I don't mind taking off the current exhaust and using a small piece of automotive exhaust. I didn't want to go through the hassle of fabricating a new mount for the standard case though if one was available for a reasonable price.

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