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Old 11-13-2013, 11:32 AM   #1111
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There is a really simple cure for that, much more economical than AWD..........open the gas and go faster
If only I had developed those skills before I turned 50. LOL
Some days I feel challenged just getting it out of the garage..

Sand just kicks my rear.. Only time I ever had a good two wheel sand experience was a CR500 on a paddle.. That thing you just aim..


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Old 11-13-2013, 11:53 AM   #1112
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I rode some Northern Baja a few weeks back. The 950's and 990's on the trip were fishtailing through the dry sand rivers at lower speeds. All these bikes had steering dampeners, and well sorted suspension.

Could AWD be the big Adventure's "Holy Sand Grail"?

Also, turn down your steering damper in the sand. At low speeds it's only making things worst...



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Old 11-14-2013, 05:17 AM   #1113
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There is a really simple cure for that, much more economical than AWD..........open the gas and go faster
Over 60mph was definitely the sweet spot... But coming out of tight corners where the speed was shed ... and appearing in a sand bed was where all hell broke loose. That is until one can control the fishtail before running out of shoulder. That transition from zero to 60 in the really long and deep sand beds are trying times...

I'm wondering ( wishing) if the AWD will track the rear wheel better behind the front in those situations before getting in the sweet spot above 60 mph.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:23 AM   #1114
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I'm wondering ( wishing) if the AWD will track the rear wheel better behind the front in those situations before getting in the sweet spot above 60 mph.
Yes, absolutely.

We've just about finished editing the video and there's one cut that shows a little drag race with Gino and you can see my bike tracking while his is fishtailing. Don't expect anything quantitative from the video though - it's just hooligan fun - but for sure it improves stability. Once you're on the gas the bike just straightens out. I'm trying to convince Tommy or Gino to take it to the Pine Barrens 300 tomorrow but no one seems to want to ride it. Something about "one of a kind" or some such foolishness.

One thing I discovered while riding was that if the bike is warm and I pull the choke lever it would instantly die. I consider that a very positive sign since it means the choke circuit is certainly functioning just not like we want. So, once we figure out if it's too much gas or too much air we can start to hone in on the problem and dial it in. Good news.

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Old 11-15-2013, 03:58 PM   #1115
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>>We've just about finished editing the video

I hope your 'just about finished' isn't the same as my 'just about finished'!
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:52 PM   #1116
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:10 PM   #1117
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>>We've just about finished editing the video

I hope your 'just about finished' isn't the same as my 'just about finished'!
Umm, yeah. I guess I don't have a good track record with that huh?

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Old 11-17-2013, 12:49 AM   #1118
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Hey...some people are waiting for that video. ..
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:55 AM   #1119
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Would replicating the choke jets from a mx fcr be a good starting point or have you already done this? From a 400/450 seems to make sense
Or should I just go away and be quiet?
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:58 AM   #1120
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:13 AM   #1121
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Hey...some people are waiting for that video. ..
Yes! I've been holding my breath for a week now. Come on Gregor, after Chris's heroic efforts we all really want to see the beast perform! Please.



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Old 11-17-2013, 03:29 AM   #1122
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:04 AM   #1123
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Would replicating the choke jets from a mx fcr be a good starting point or have you already done this? From a 400/450 seems to make sense
Or should I just go away and be quiet?
No, thoughts are welcome and, yes, that's where we started. I suspect float level may be playing a part. Chris should have the bike back in the next day or so and the weather is cool enough to work on the chokes.

Locul, you of all people will enjoy the video. I won't say more.

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Old 11-17-2013, 09:03 AM   #1124
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Locul, you of all people will enjoy the video. I won't say more.

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