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Old 05-14-2009, 07:39 AM   #1
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Question synthetic oil in f800/f650?

I'm about ready for the 6k oil change and I was thinking about using synthetic oil.

Any thoughts or suggestions? i usually wait till the bike has 10k before switching but...
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:51 AM   #2
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If synthetic was the same price as regular, I'd probably use it. But, I really don't think the organic stuff is doing any harm.
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:55 AM   #3
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If you want to go synthetic then you'll be just fine at 6k to switch.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:25 AM   #4
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There is a thread somewhere here that some guy explained a studdy by University of Ca on oils in motorcycles. Appearently the best one was Mobil1 synthetic. The bottle of it is around 10 bucks in my local store, but it saves time and money by changing oil once in 6K instead of twice. Plus I save money on the filter. So I would do it. Actually I am going to do it on my Wee. Back to the studdy. Out of all the oils Mobil 1 kept like 85% of it's viskosity, while other oils dropped down much more. So there you go.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:50 AM   #5
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If synthetic was the same price as regular, I'd probably use it. But, I really don't think the organic stuff is doing any harm.
Last time gas was $2 / gal. and on the way to $4/ gal I went to my local Wal Mart and bought a bunch of both Synthetic Oil and Ammo. The price of oil hasn't gone up that much, but I have a supply sitting in the garage just waiting for me to use it.

The Ammo on the other hand has doubled in price. I recently sold some. I wish I would have mortgaged the house and bought more Ammo two years ago. Oh well stock piling on oil and ammo turned out to be a good idea.
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:25 AM   #6
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I thought BMW puts synthetic in at the factory. Aren't the engines in the F650GS2 and F800GS born with synthetic in them?
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:52 AM   #7
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No BMW uses dino- They need to be broken in with dino, then they can be switched to synthetic @ 6,000 - 10,000. Not enough friction? with synthetic to allow for good break in results.
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:53 AM   #8
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No BMW uses dino- They need to be broken in with dino, then they can be switched to synthetic @ 6,000 - 10,000. Not enough friction? with synthetic to allow for good break in results.
Ok, makes sense. Good to know!
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Old 05-14-2009, 12:52 PM   #9
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What if uhhhh, someone, put synthetic in @ 3,000 miles?


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Old 05-14-2009, 01:01 PM   #10
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You might end up with an oil burner that never got properly worn in. Hope you hit some very high rpm's when you started.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:04 PM   #11
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What if uhhhh, someone, put synthetic in @ 3,000 miles?


THEN...you should be beaten with a wet noodle. The SHAME in it all.
Honestly. This subject is way overblown. Run what makes you comfy. the bikes will break in just fine. Ever run into a bike that has not been broken in properly? Or one that is "taking too long to break in"?
Knock wood...in all of the motors I have owned in my life, not one has given me any oil/lube related trouble. Just be diligent with the PM's. Even my lawn mower...a HOnda I bought in 1988 is still going strong. Used straight 30W for the longest time. Now i just use whatever synthetic I have sitting around (usually M-1).
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:15 PM   #12
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It just means it might take longer to break in.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:23 PM   #13
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Went on the World of BMW Off Road "Adventure Maintenance" course; Si Pavey and the team showing us how to set up and maintain an motorcycle for a long trip. FWIW, they said stick with mineral for the F800GS.
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There is a thread somewhere here that some guy explained a studdy by University of Ca on oils in motorcycles...
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Oils1.html
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:14 PM   #15
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You might end up with an oil burner that never got properly worn in. Hope you hit some very high rpm's when you started.

Don't you think by 3,000 miles it's "worn in"?

And yes, I hit some high rpm's when I started.
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