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Old 05-07-2014, 09:29 AM   #1
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990ADV 2012 - clank noise

Initially wrongly posted in "Beast" section... If someone can delete it on the other section. Thanks.

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Hi Folks,

Do I have to get worried about this clank noise ?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1t...ank-noise_auto

This happens when I pull the clutch lever half way. My dealer said that this is a normal noise from the clutch where the discs are on movement...

Didn't remove the clutch cover but could it be unscrewed screws... ? Or is it simply normal ?

My bike is just getting out of the 7'500km service. My mechanic installed an OBERON clutch slave cylinder....

Any hints would be appreciated.

Thanks again ! Cheers.

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Old 05-07-2014, 11:13 AM   #2
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Not normal.

Remove clutch cover and inspect bolts, springs and clutch drum freeplay.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:14 PM   #3
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Hard to tell from a video, is the clutch working good? This bike has a hydraulic clutch lever. When the bike is running and in N, when you just start to pull in the lever ( just light pressure, maybe 1/6 on an inch) you will feel a slight vibration at the lever. This is normal as the hydraulic pressure builds and pushes on the clutch rod.
All of the noise and vibration should go away when the lever is pulled all the way in.
You can put the bike on the side stand and remove the round cover over the clutch on the right side of the bike ( only a small drop of oil will come out) you will see six bolts ( 10 mm head) they should be torqued to 10 nm.
I don't think you have a problem.. HTH
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:16 PM   #4
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Also may need to have the clutch bleed once more.
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Old 05-08-2014, 02:41 AM   #5
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So I've just dismantled the clutch cover and checked the torque (10Nm) on each screws. Everything is tight and well in position. I restarted the bike and the "rattle" seems to be lower than on the video I shot (maybe this is my perception).

Again, all screws were tight and no one of them was completely loose. I was wondering about the hydraulic tensioner on the main drive but at 7'200km it would be sad. I can hear, as everyone, the engine rattling for a few seconds while riding and just after have started the engine but that's it.

I will see what's going on with the time. It's always very tricky to diagnose such noises. An expert should see it and feel it but as my Dealer said that it is normal, then I should trust him somehow.

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Old 05-08-2014, 07:42 AM   #6
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rattling at start up is normal, should last only a few seconds
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:08 PM   #7
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Its up to you, but what you re showing in that video is not normal.
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:20 PM   #8
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Its up to you, but what you re showing in that video is not normal.
Okey, so if it's not the clutch, what could it be ? It would be interesting if someone can shot a small video doing the same as I did just to compare....

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Old 05-09-2014, 01:19 AM   #9
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Hi there, I'm sure the noise with the clutch lever in the interim position is NOT normal, can't you get it sorted under warranty? The noise is the ktm way of telling you of a problem, I wouldn't ride further until sorted! All the best nige.
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Hi there, I'm sure the noise with the clutch lever in the interim position is NOT normal, can't you get it sorted under warranty? The noise is the ktm way of telling you of a problem, I wouldn't ride further until sorted! All the best nige.
Hi Nige,

S*%&@#t ! I believe also more and more that this is not normal... A bud of mine said the check the OBERON clutch slave cylinder which has been installed by the dealer two weeks ago. This is maybe coming from there.... I'll go to him this afternoon.

I will repost the outcomes.

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Old 05-09-2014, 02:14 AM   #11
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My 990 ADV used to do this. I never worried.

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Old 05-09-2014, 04:46 AM   #12
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Maybe a similar lead to my phenomenon... : http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=754442
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:32 AM   #13
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Soooooooo, went to my KTM dealer for a check.
Again, he said before touching the bike that this "rattle" is normal. But he put it on the lift this time and dismantled the complete clutch. All disks out, he showed me the core part (can't remember the name) and explained me how the system works. He showed me that my clutch is like brand new with no tear signs and nothing was loose inside. He said again that when pulling the lever, it is possible that the whole bundle of clutch parts vibrate a bit but it is a normal behavior. It is a KTM not a Honda.

He emphasizes as well that the new Alu bash plate that I installed can increase the sound of the vibrations compared with the OEM one.

Therefore, I shaked his hand, put my helmet on and left convinced at 75%...

Wait and see if it's getting worst or not...
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:56 PM   #14
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Right or wrong- your dealer seems like a cool dude. Few dealers would bother to make that effort for a customer- which is why I don't go to them.
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:40 PM   #15
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It's always very tricky to diagnose such noises. An expert should see it and feel it but as my Dealer said that it is normal, then I should trust him somehow.

Cheers. JM

DONT TRUST THE DEALER, IT IS NOT NORMAL! i have the same bike, and it does not do that at all...

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He emphasizes as well that the new Alu bash plate that I installed can increase the sound of the vibrations compared with the OEM one
spend 2 minutes and remove the bash plate. then see if it still does it...

seriously, something is wrong. i would not ride that bike till you figure it out. please post up when you find out what it is, as some of us will want to check our bikes. good luck.
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