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Old 06-01-2009, 07:30 PM   #16
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I'm not asking for your price, just what normal retail would be in the US.

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Old 06-01-2009, 08:17 PM   #17
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From Carpimoto in Italy = $586.00 US plus shipping from Italy. Don't know the amount yet.
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:52 PM   #18
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yup, thats them. they also own a bmw dealership.

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Googling the phone number comes up with http://www.herdan.com/.

Looks like they are a Bitubo dealer.
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:53 PM   #19
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you fellas interested should call for a price. i think youll be pleasantly surprised.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:51 PM   #20
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:39 PM   #21
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Were there any options for spring rates?
Good suspension w/ the wrong springs could be a waste.
Javier (trailtrick) says he may have an answer for me.

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Old 06-02-2009, 10:55 PM   #22
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Were there any options for spring rates?
Good suspension w/ the wrong springs could be a waste.
Javier (trailtrick) says he may have an answer for me.
No, and they are linear rate springs. But that is also why they have a preload adjustment. To suit a wide range of weights.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:45 AM   #23
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Not available in Australia yet so I'm sticking in a set of Progressive springs and gonna play around with oil weights. If it makes a noticable difference I will let you know.
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:03 AM   #24
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I might try giving them a call and see if they'll ship, no point waiting for them to be distrubuted here or being spoke to like a muppet by local retailers.
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:05 AM   #25
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In all honesty though, I rode the stock suspension pretty hard this weekend at a dual sport event and Ill tell ya, it wasn't bad! Much better than my TE610 stock forks and on par with my 950A. I was able to ride the bike very fast through some rocky sections. I was surprised. not perfect by any means, but certainly as bad as I expected. It didnt warrent a thread "800GS good bike but poor suspension" imho.
If I hadnt already bought a shock and fork kit, I just might have considered leaving it alone. Maybe.
The shock anyway.
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Old 06-03-2009, 08:17 AM   #26
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In all honesty though, I rode the stock suspension pretty hard this weekend at a dual sport event and Ill tell ya, it wasn't bad! Much better than my TE610 stock forks and on par with my 950A. I was able to ride the bike very fast through some rocky sections. I was surprised. not perfect by any means, but certainly as bad as I expected. It didnt warrent a thread "800GS good bike but poor suspension" imho.
If I hadnt already bought a shock and fork kit, I just might have considered leaving it alone. Maybe.
The shock anyway.
+2 I've ridden my F800GS offroad numerous times now, and have not been "disgusted" by the suspension as others have. For me it works just fine, but maybe that's because I weigh 185 lbs. This bike is set up from the factory for a 187 lb rider. States it in the manual as well. The most I think I'm going to do is put on that Hyperpro rising rate spring set.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:23 AM   #27
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No, and they are linear rate springs. But that is also why they have a preload adjustment. To suit a wide range of weights.
You're kidding? Why make a high end, adjustable cartridge and leave out the most critical part of suspension. Preload does not sufficiently compensate for weight. Proper spring rate is just as important. With inadequate spring rate, you'll bottom out much easier when sag is properly set.


Maybe I'll just get the front resprung and replace the rear shock (I don't think it can be resprung?)
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:46 AM   #28
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You're kidding? Why make a high end, adjustable cartridge and leave out the most critical part of suspension. Preload does not sufficiently compensate for weight. Proper spring rate is just as important.
What critical part is left out?

Are you referring to the fact that it's a linear spring? (or did I misread your post?)

Of course you're correct in needing proper spring rate, and preload is important for setting sag in either linear or progressive.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:49 AM   #29
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You're kidding? Why make a high end, adjustable cartridge and leave out the most critical part of suspension. Preload does not sufficiently compensate for weight. Proper spring rate is just as important. With inadequate spring rate, you'll bottom out much easier when sag is properly set.


Maybe I'll just get the front resprung and replace the rear shock (I don't think it can be resprung?)
Actually, the fact that the Bitubo Cartridge Kit utilizes linear rate springs is not such a huge deal. Preload in fact does cover a somewhat wide weight range. And when it comes to the cartridges themselves in this kit, they are also very beefy in design and will handle damping well for a wide range of weights. If you want a system that is exactly tuned to you, then you'll be paying $2000 for a custom design instead of $525 for this Bitubo kit.

And yes, the rear shock on the F800GS can be resprung. That's what you do with this kit:

http://www.touratech-usa.com/shop/sh...3FB7IJx22EFA1F
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:51 AM   #30
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In all honesty though, I rode the stock suspension pretty hard this weekend at a dual sport event and Ill tell ya, it wasn't bad!.... I was able to ride the bike very fast through some rocky sections.
Really? Everytime I do that I hit the front so hard I think I'm going to bend a rim.

How about some more info on the enduro....did I miss the ride report?
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