ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > GSpot > Parallel Universe
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-05-2009, 01:27 PM   #76
The Griz
North Forest Rider
 
The Griz's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Minnesota
Oddometer: 3,787
Weird, says 5wt on the bottle in this pic. They gave you 2wt instead?



Either way, that's some thin oil! Probably a testament to why the kit is working so well for you. Thinner oil moves through cavities faster. Seems like they designed the springs and cartridges around this lighter oil perfectly. Makes sense.
__________________
PAUL BUNYAN FOREST RIDERS MC
2013 KTM 300 XC-W
2014 KTM 690 Enduro R

The Griz screwed with this post 06-05-2009 at 01:36 PM
The Griz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2009, 01:45 PM   #77
bxr140
Flame Bait
 
bxr140's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: On high
Oddometer: 1,040
Quote:
Originally Posted by DockingPilot
bxr, they are sealed, so it just lubes the bushings and seals and provides cushion on comprssion. So I have been told.
The "cushion on compression" must be their way of describing the 'air spring'--the compression of the air in the gap between the oil and the top of the fork.

If the units are completely *sealed* though, that begs the question...how do you rebuild them? Fork oil really should be changed every 10-15k miles at most.
bxr140 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2009, 02:34 PM   #78
DockingPilot OP
Hooked Up and Hard Over
 
DockingPilot's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: Andover, N.J.
Oddometer: 9,167
Griz, the oil does not flow through any cavities. When I get Ill double check the wt.

bxr, the oil is easy eough to change. The gas inside the units Im not sure what happens there.
__________________
Frank Reinbold

"Every bike I ever had, was the best bike I ever had, when I had it"
DockingPilot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2009, 03:09 PM   #79
bxr140
Flame Bait
 
bxr140's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: On high
Oddometer: 1,040
Quote:
Originally Posted by DockingPilot
bxr, the oil is easy eough to change. The gas inside the units Im not sure what happens there.


I'm talking about the oil inside the cartridges themselves, not the stuff you poured into the fork tubes. The nitrogen charge in there is only to prevent cavitation of the oil that's also in there--similar to a rear shock. The oil is the stuff doing the damping, not the gas charge.

Just thinking out loud, but in addition to the spring tuning mentioned already, the other reason (perhaps the primary reason?) you put oil in the fork tubes is to cool down the cartridges. I'd surmise that the weight of the oil is largely irrelevant.
bxr140 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2009, 03:50 PM   #80
PackMule
love what you do
 
PackMule's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: New Hampshah
Oddometer: 19,458
Quote:
Originally Posted by bxr140
Just thinking out loud, but in addition to the spring tuning mentioned already, the other reason (perhaps the primary reason?) you put oil in the fork tubes is to cool down the cartridges. I'd surmise that the weight of the oil is largely irrelevant.



I'd wondered about the unit servicing, too...
__________________
Nate in N.E.

Yes, I have a Dakar problem -- that there are 50 weeks of the year without Dakar!

They don't expect you to finish. That's why it's the Dakar. -- PPiA


Get your sweet Pyndon DakARTwork here

Pyndon '13
PackMule is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2009, 04:17 PM   #81
DockingPilot OP
Hooked Up and Hard Over
 
DockingPilot's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: Andover, N.J.
Oddometer: 9,167
I wonder about the fact that they are sealed has anything to do with the longevity ?
__________________
Frank Reinbold

"Every bike I ever had, was the best bike I ever had, when I had it"
DockingPilot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2009, 06:34 PM   #82
M N B
would rather be riding
 
M N B's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: San Jose, CA
Oddometer: 1,110
Quote:
Originally Posted by bxr140
That's good to hear. It seems to imply that they can set up the damping for rider weight...though only if you're out of their (somewhat large) range.
The stock range is between 143 and 187lbs.

Outside of that, it appears from the email that they can put a stiffer spring in and adjust the damping to compensate (which is excellent news!)
__________________
2011 Husqvarna TE310
2009 BMW F800GS
2007 HD Road King FLHR
2003 Husqvarna TE610e
1997 BMW K1100LT Special Edition
M N B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 08:46 AM   #83
johngil
Reseda, CA
 
johngil's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Oddometer: 3,714
Just ordered mine. I'll re-spring if needed.
Great customer service! I gave a shout for Frank. I think they are very appreciative of you, Frank.

BTW, these are going fast! It wasn't clear when another shipment was expected.

johngil screwed with this post 06-08-2009 at 07:55 PM
johngil is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 09:37 PM   #84
Bayner
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Penticton, BC
Oddometer: 1,463
Frank, with the new spring rate, have you found it more difficult to bottom the front out, or is it just feeling more compliant but still hits full travel frequently?
Bayner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 06:24 AM   #85
DockingPilot OP
Hooked Up and Hard Over
 
DockingPilot's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: Andover, N.J.
Oddometer: 9,167
Bayner,

Beacause of work and the weather here, I have not been able really push it to the limits. I did take it to work on Sunday. Staten Island NY. The roads are probably not unlike the bombed out roads in Bagdad.
So I noticed, short, quick hits like potholes are sucked up. The impact feeling we normally get is reduced by 80% on most and completely on others. I seeked them out and some I hit hard. The fork never bottomed on this of course. But from what I can tell, I would expect full travel when the bike is g-out. But time will have to tell.
So far, would I buy them again and recomend them ? In a heartbeat. They are a marked improvement.
__________________
Frank Reinbold

"Every bike I ever had, was the best bike I ever had, when I had it"
DockingPilot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 09:25 AM   #86
jeffchri
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Oddometer: 132
Quote:
Originally Posted by johngil
BTW, these are going fast! It wasn't clear when another shipment was expected.
Yep, they're out of stock now, I'm on the waitlist for some indeterminate amount of time ...

__________________
2009 BMW F800GS - the "attack helicopter"
2008 Husqvarna TE510 - loud and proud
2006 BMW R1200S - dedicated track bike now, mostly because of sloppy welds
2010 BMW S1000RR - soooooon, very soooon ...

Recent past: Montesa 4RT (now in the hands of the fiancee), Weestrom, F650GS Dakar, Yammy WR250F, (a scooter), (another scooter)
jeffchri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 09:53 AM   #87
johngil
Reseda, CA
 
johngil's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Oddometer: 3,714
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffchri
Yep, they're out of stock now, I'm on the waitlist for some indeterminate amount of time ...

I guess I got the last one?
johngil is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 05:31 PM   #88
jeffchri
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Oddometer: 132
No, wait - they just called me back a bit ago, they "found" 2 more at another shop. As of an hour ago, they still had one of those left ...
__________________
2009 BMW F800GS - the "attack helicopter"
2008 Husqvarna TE510 - loud and proud
2006 BMW R1200S - dedicated track bike now, mostly because of sloppy welds
2010 BMW S1000RR - soooooon, very soooon ...

Recent past: Montesa 4RT (now in the hands of the fiancee), Weestrom, F650GS Dakar, Yammy WR250F, (a scooter), (another scooter)
jeffchri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 06:22 PM   #89
DolphinJohn
Really, Really Cool
 
DolphinJohn's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Nature Coast, Florida
Oddometer: 3,823
I just pulled the trigger on the last set from their first batch.

Ordered them from Kathy by phone. Super nice lady.

Good thing I love ramen noodles.
__________________
_________________________________

My Ride Reports
DolphinJohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 06:31 PM   #90
DolphinJohn
Really, Really Cool
 
DolphinJohn's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Location: Nature Coast, Florida
Oddometer: 3,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by DockingPilot

For under $550, you cant beat it.



Frank got the guinea (uh, no pun intended) pig discount I guess.










.
__________________
_________________________________

My Ride Reports
DolphinJohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 01:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014