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Old 06-06-2009, 09:25 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Waco Kid
Jeans are the one thing I cheat on. I don't mind putting on a well-ventilated jacket. I've seen pictures of ground ankle bones. I usually where my Sidi boots or some Red Wings that cover my ankles at the very least.
Point taken. I have some motorcycle sneakers with ankle protection I could find in the back of the closet and use on shorter trips.
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Old 06-07-2009, 06:52 AM   #17
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VaderSS, Maybe ATGATT in the car would be the safest answer. If safety is the biggest concern I would suggest...... aw nevermind.

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Old 06-07-2009, 07:17 AM   #18
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For those who insist on jeans for short trips, try some strap-on knee armor. Only takes a second to put on and can prevent a life altering event. It takes me the same amount of time to put my Oxtar TCS race boots on that it takes to put tennis shoes on.

Broken bones will heal, but busted knees and ankles are often a permanent injury, to some extent.

Murf2, I love riding too much to give it up, but I'll sure stack the cards in my favor...

Seems like most riders would rather be ignorant of the facts and ignore the risks. I like to know about the risks and address them as best I can. I feel that most or at least many of the people on this forum tend to fall in my group. There is no way motorcycling will ever be risk-free, but then neither is taking a shower...
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:25 AM   #19
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I go 50-80mph slower in jeans and T-shirt than leathers. I'd rather crash in a t-shirt.
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:37 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by VaderSS
From the Hurt Report;

Most motorcycle accidents involve a short trip associated with shopping, errands, friends, entertainment or recreation, and the accident is likely to happen within 5 miles or 12 minutes of the trip origin.

After learning that, I'm ATGATT or in the car.

5 miles or 12 minutes? Damn it looks like the Harley doorstep to Starbucks crowd is safe....
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:03 AM   #21
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Learned my short trip lesson long ago.
Hopped into my car coming out of one store and was gonna drive to another store 2 blocks away and did not put my seat belt on.
After traveling 1 block, I turned right at the light, and here comes this wide eyed woman with a police cruiser in full pursuit in my lane.
She swerved back into her own lane, ran the red light and t-boned a car behind me.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:10 PM   #22
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Last weekend (5/30) I went on a very short 2 mile round trip to fuel my bike. Was planning to go on a group ride the following day. Being a lurker here on ADV I'm well aware of ATGATT.

The weather that Saturday was perfect. I almost didn't wear a jacket. I left the house wearing blue jeans and sneakers, cause I was too lazy to put on my boots for a short trip. Hell I even looked at my 3/4 helmet before I grabbed my Shoei DS Hornet.

Filled the tank, pulled out of the station and got about two hundred feet and was taken out hard. Was on a four lane road and the lady to my left decided she could turn right from the inside lane. Happened so fast, I wasn't even able to think "Oh Shit!". Don't remember the impact at all, just seeing the car, then being on the asphalt.

Damage done: Helmet, jacket and bike look ugly. My left arm from wrist to shoulder hit her car. Very bruised and still hurts. Right knee hurts, atm, and must've been twisted when the bike went down. Guess I'm lucky cause it could've been worse. No more 3/4 helmet for me, and next time I'll take the time to wear boots even for an around the block trip.
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:02 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by BCC
If I'm just doing a grocery store run or really any trip of less than 10 miles or so, I don't do ATGATT anymore.

Too damn hot, too much work and I can't be bothered.

Helmet, gloves, t-shirt, long pants, sneakers and careful riding.

I'm atgatt for longer rides and anything in the dirt.
I drive better drunk, too. Makes me more careful. Can't be bothered to find a DD or call a cab...
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:27 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by Butters
In other words, there can be lots of threats on local roads but your reduced speed lessens the chance of serious injury. On the other side, highways have the higher speeds but less external threats. But that middle area - where your speeds are higher but you still have the external threats of city traffic - Yikes.
I agree completely. As an example...I get funny looks wearing all leathers just popping around Norfolk, but my self-policing is that I don't go through the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel in less than full leather (or anywhere my speeds will be over 45mph-ish). All it takes is one bonehead and you'd be very dead in that there tunnel. I know I can't make myself wear leather pants 100% of the time (jacket yes, pants no), but I come to some reasonable agreement with myself as to where I'm most likely to potentially need it, and wear it in at least those conditions 100% of the time.

Boots are another biggie. I won't go anywhere without proper footwear. I twisted an ankle pretty solidly with a dumb drop in a parking lot (getting foot stuck in the still spinning rear wheel) and since then I haven't got on a bike without proper footwear.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:29 PM   #25
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Every trip starts out close to the beginning in both time and distance.

Day rides also end there (obviously only a minority of moto trips are overnighters or longer).

The accidents happen where the trips are occurring. Kind of a non-statistic.
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