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Old 06-28-2009, 07:57 PM   #16
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A forest fire, not too far away. No one seemed to be trying to put it out.





This was near the midway point where we could get gas and lunch. We asked about the fire there, and the gas attendant just shrugged. I guess losing a few hundred acres of scrub brush does not matter up here - there is just sooooo much of it!.



Another river along the way. You could tell it had been diverted in the past, because the banks looked like they used to handle a lot more water.

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Old 06-28-2009, 07:58 PM   #17
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beautiful, you are showing me what to expect next month when i head up there!
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:59 PM   #18
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Awesome ride report. It seems like this type of ride is so doable for many of us in the Midwest, but seems like it is rare, compared to riding to Alaska.

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Old 06-28-2009, 08:04 PM   #19
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the highway ends in Radisson, where we filled up with gas and checked the local campground. It was nice, but we wanted to move onto the actual bay. The road from Radisson to Chisisabi is paved, and in good condition, but this is where we had the most worry about safety. It seems the Indians from the reserve at Chisisabi go into Radisson for supplies, and some of them drive like absolute maniacs. I almost met my Maker on that road. A van came barreling toward us, crossed the centre line through a curve and was coming right at me. I moved as far to the side as I could, but did not want to go on the gravel shoulder because I had some speed and would have likely spilled. The driver of the van realized she was across the line, and jerked the wheel back - almost rolling the van. She went too far back and hit the gravel on her side, spewing gravel at Dyno. We both had a slightly elevated heart rate after that.

The road between Chisisabi and the Bay is gravel and rough: Biggest bump I have seen on a road:
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:16 PM   #20
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WE MADE IT!!!







We met a "First Nation" family here. We were a little apprehensive, as they were having a fire and picnic at the shelter we were planning to sleep at. We saW them eyeing us over as Dyno and I stopped to figure out what to do next. We had driven a long way to get here, and did not have a back up plan if we could not sleep here. The oldest of the group waved us over. What now? Were we disturbing some private land and about to be told to get lost?

Quite the opposite. They invited us to set up our tents, relax, and come and join them for some tea. Nicest people in the world!

I am in the house building business in Ontario. One of the men there said, "ya? Me too". I knew they were from the reserve at Chisisabi, so I was skeptical. Turns out they build about 10 new houses per year in the Community. This guy was a building techician, doing building permit drawings, getting the building permits, etc. Blew me away! I assumed, stupidly, that the Indians could do what ever they wanted on their reserve. No, they have the same regulations and beauracracy we have to deal with here. All of sudden there was not much of a gap between us - I always felt very far removed from the First Nations people - now I feel much more connected.
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:29 PM   #21
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I askd about all the boats sitting on the shore - whose were they, where are they from, etc. The older gentleman said that those boats come from all over, even China. I did not really get what they were all laughing about, until I walked down and had a closer look at the boats. Most were made locally and with wood. Some were obviously made with a form and out of plastic - the kind you might find in Walmart. "from China" suddenly made sense.

The other thing that struck me about these very nice people, as well as many others from the Community that drove down to the Bay, was that they were all driving very nice, very new, full size SUV's. There is a story there, I don't know yet all the background.

Dyno and I had a lovely spot there for the night. It was extremely cold. We learned that there is still ice out on James Bay, and the wind was blowing over the ice and blowing very cold fog over us. We went from about 30 degrees C in Radisson to I think less than 10 degrees C within 1 hour's riding. The Indians suggested to us where to set up our tents to avoid the cold wind.






















A lovely campfire to warm us before climbing into our cold tents. There is a lot to contemplate at a time and place like this.








The sunset was spectacular over the bay. It did not set until about 10 pm, and it did not get dark until about midnight.


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Old 06-28-2009, 08:34 PM   #22
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I think the sun rose again at about 4 am. It was daylight, it seemed, very soon after we went to sleep.

Well, time for some instant oatmeal and Dyno's awesome coffee, and then pack up to do the trip all over again, but in reverse order.


WTF?! Is there a chapter of ADVRider for fishing boats way up north?







Okay, time to head back south.
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There were snowmobiles, sleds, boats and motors all over the place, just left there until they are needed again. I asked the Indians the night before if there was an worry about stealing...they looked at me suspiciously and said "not yet". Then they laughed.








Someone had cut a lot of firewood and left it on the shore for anyone who needed some. Dyno was told by the Indians to help himself last night, and that was what we burned the night before.
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FYYFF sticker behind us. Couple of tough guys, eh?


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We stopped at a Hydro Dam on the way back. Very impressive. Hard to tell the scale from the picture, but we rode over the top and I would guess is was about 800 m across.







They had to cut out a lot of rock at the spillway to let all the water run away.


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More lonely highway coming back! The forest fire was still burning, and still no one seemed to care.



Our last campground:

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It was sad that this amazing journey was coming to an end. Back in Ontario.




more than a few bugs were sacrificed for this trip; to all those bugs, i am sorry (but not sorry for the monsters that splatted my helmet visor every so often!)

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Here is a shot of my gps when we hit James Bay - 1,649 to James Bay from home, and I'll let you read the maximum speed .







It was a GREAT trip - and I would highly recommend this trip to anyone contemplating it. The roads are a biker's dream, and it was very enlightening and enriching for me, especially with regard to my discussions with the First nations people.

Dyno, you were a great riding partner!! Where do we go next?
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Great pics

I'm heading up there with Verboten1 and a couple of other ADVriders in a few weeks and it's good to know we'll be able to camp on the bay.
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We were up there from Boston 2 weeks back. Great weather. We went out out to Chisasibi, and then down about 12 miles of washboard gravel road, and you can get right to where the locals keep their boats and stick your toe in James Bay. Made the 60 miles across 1005 out of Matagami seem like a walk in the park.

We came back down on Sunday 6/15, may have passed you going up...
We actually went up Sunday the 21st, or we could have offered you a coffee!!

It is a great trip!
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