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Old 07-02-2009, 06:57 AM   #1
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Heidenau Vs Mefo

I know thereís been a fare bit of talk about these tyres.. Iím looking to try them on my SE.
Has anyone tried them on the SE, mileage? Handling?

Talked to a GS guy who said he get 15k miles out of a set of Mefo's !!!!!!!
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:32 PM   #2
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I’m looking to try them on my SE.
Has anyone tried them on the SE, mileage? Handling?
Just returned from a 5daytrip with differents kinds of surfaces with a TKC80 on front and a new Heidenau on rear:
-The Heidenau lies between the TKC80 and the Metzler Sahara in terms of grip on dirt
-It lives say 80 % of the Sahara's miles on tarmac
-I couldn't tell any difference on the grip on tarmac compared with the Sahara or the Scorpion
-It's cheaper than the Sahara (at least in Europe)

After 40000 miles with endless number of tyres on all kinds of surfaces, experience with the original Karoos, Pirelli Scorpions, Metzler Enduro 3 Sahara, Michelin Anakee front and now the Heidenau, I will:

-never put the Scorpions again (less miles than the Sahara and worse grip on dirt as well)
-TKC80 on front when I need to brake safely on dirt
-Anakee front when/if 100% tarmac (never on dirt though so it won't ever be on my bike again)
-always choose the TKC80 instead of the Karoos (lifelength so much better)
-Heidenau on rear when I ride mixed dirt/tarmac (the bite on dirt is actually almost as good as the TKC80)

Next to try is the Heidenau on front. Next week or so.
I have not yet tried any hardcore offroad tyres.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:57 PM   #3
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Any good deals out there on the Heidenau? I'm still waiting on the Mefo's and I have an upcomming trip...Heading for West Fest after a short trip around Colorado and need a set of tires before I head out.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:29 PM   #4
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Where you going? You could do a 606/908 set up while you wait for the Mefos. Wicked cheap here.
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:42 PM   #5
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The link doesn't work what is the name of the website?
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:57 PM   #6
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:54 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by charlie264
I know thereís been a fare bit of talk about these tyres.. Iím looking to try them on my SE.
Has anyone tried them on the SE, mileage? Handling?

Talked to a GS guy who said he get 15k miles out of a set of Mefo's !!!!!!!

The Mefo are great. Kinda hard to find te 150 size for the SE/Adventure. As far as milage my Se was getting 1100 to 1300 miles max on the rear TKC80's. And with the Mefo's a max of 5000 miles. It is a lot better on the black top, better in the gravel, almost as good in the mud but not so much in loose sand. Overall very happy. I still run a TKC 80 front tire.
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:04 AM   #8
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We are busy testing the Heidi 150x18 for the 950 at the moment here in South Africa. So far
I tried the 140x18 but found the 950 was just too much for the tyre. Killed the tyre in 3500km, some guys have got to 8000kms so I think it all depends how you ride.

but so far the 150x18 is looking good.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:36 AM   #9
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15K miles??? That what I thought.

They seem to be very similar, well identical tread pattern. Wonder if they used the same mould/manufacturer? Iím happy with the Karoo up front but Iím eating rear Sahara 3ís.
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:04 AM   #10
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Just returned from a 5daytrip with differents kinds of surfaces with a TKC80 on front and a new Heidenau on rear:
-The Heidenau lies between the TKC80 and the Metzler Sahara in terms of grip on dirt
-It lives say 80 % of the Sahara's miles on tarmac
-I couldn't tell any difference on the grip on tarmac compared with the Sahara or the Scorpion
-It's cheaper than the Sahara (at least in Europe)

After 40000 miles with endless number of tyres on all kinds of surfaces, experience with the original Karoos, Pirelli Scorpions, Metzler Enduro 3 Sahara, Michelin Anakee front and now the Heidenau, I will:

-never put the Scorpions again (less miles than the Sahara and worse grip on dirt as well)
-TKC80 on front when I need to brake safely on dirt
-Anakee front when/if 100% tarmac (never on dirt though so it won't ever be on my bike again)
-always choose the TKC80 instead of the Karoos (lifelength so much better)
-Heidenau on rear when I ride mixed dirt/tarmac (the bite on dirt is actually almost as good as the TKC80)

Next to try is the Heidenau on front. Next week or so.
I have not yet tried any hardcore offroad tyres.
The combo I've stuck with is Karroo front and Sahara rear, but your saying the Sahara rear lives longer than the Heidenau? The reason I use this combo is money costs more than anything else but the price difference between the Sahara and Heidenau is minimal.
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:19 AM   #11
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We are busy testing the Heidi 150x18 for the 950 at the moment here in South Africa. So far
I tried the 140x18 but found the 950 was just too much for the tyre. Killed the tyre in 3500km, some guys have got to 8000kms so I think it all depends how you ride.

but so far the 150x18 is looking good.
Mark - are u talking about the 950 SE with wich u are testing the 150x18's? I got about 2000K from the 140 so far - on/off road and it is performing well. What kinda max speed is safe on tar with the tyer?
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Old 07-26-2009, 01:00 PM   #12
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Eh?

I am a bit confused after this weekend. I did a trip with the 640 friday and saturday, and with the 990 on sunday. I've had the 640 for 3 months now, and the 990 for 3 weeks.

I did 550 km's on the 640 including a lot of really tough no-road sandy/rocky hills. I had a very light load on the back. Tyres are TKC 80's front and rear, still in very good condition.

On the 990 I did around 100km's, including a mix on thick loose sand and some very rocky terrain. No load. Tyres are the OEM Scorpions.

Now, what puzzles me is that the 990 is way better in the sand. I had to really be on top of my game with the 640 all the time or it would just blow out from under me, especially in the sand. I could not trust the front end for any support in the loose stuff. The 990 felt much more secure, especially in the sand. I really expected it to be the other way around, i.e. Lighter bike + knobbies = better in the sand.
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Mark - are u talking about the 950 SE with wich u are testing the 150x18's? I got about 2000K from the 140 so far - on/off road and it is performing well. What kinda max speed is safe on tar with the tyer?
Nope I'm testing the 150x18 on the adv, very happy with them so far.
I had 140's on the ADV before and killed them in 3500kms. IMO the 140 is excellent for the 650's but not on the 950/990.
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:45 PM   #14
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Nope I'm testing the 150x18 on the adv, very happy with them so far.
I had 140's on the ADV before and killed them in 3500kms. IMO the 140 is excellent for the 650's but not on the 950/990.
Do you know if the 150's will fit the SE and if anyone has tested them?
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:39 PM   #15
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Thumb Heidenau 150x18 in the USA

I e-mailed John Bettencourt @ Moto Amore regarding availabilty of the 150's. Here is his reply...

" Hello, I'm glad to hear they're working for you (The 140's I ordered). So far this is the second time I've been asked for a 150 in 18". If there's more demand for them I'll start carrying them. John B"

OK folks, you know what to do. If you want Heidi's in 150x18, e-mail John at: mailto:motoamore@hotmail.com.

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