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Old 07-31-2009, 07:36 PM   #1
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'94 Bmw R100gspd

what is the value of one of these? approx 40K miles?

big issues to look for on this year/model? does the '94 have the same trans prob the early 90's R100gspd's had?

aside from owning a "classic" bike, is there a reason to go for the R100 over a '95 1100GS? (same price and mileage)

one more...and very important question... can i do all my own maintenance on this bike without owning a bunch of specialized equipment? (i'm pretty handy myself and i just dont want to be a slave to a dealer) perhaps this is a misconception about BMW's though...

thanks!

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Old 07-31-2009, 08:14 PM   #2
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The R100 is carbureted. Simple ignition..
R11XX is fuel Injected, Computer controlled..

Depends on what you like...

I like both so it'd be a tough decision if I didn't already have an R100GS
They're both great bikes. I think the R100 wil be quite a bit lighter.
Mine is as light as my F650. That's one of the things I really like about it.
The Fuel injected 11XX will have quite a bit more power, But it's a lot heavier and harder to really off road.

I'm probably going to wind up with one of each...
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:16 PM   #3
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Show some pics. No way we can evaluate without pics

100GS and 1100GS are 2 different animals. You may need the dealer to service the latter, unlike the 100GS.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:06 PM   #4
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I've got both, and

and about the only thing they have in common is the blue and white roundel. And even though the PD has that whooper of a tank, it still feels alot lighter than the GS. And the bike is just smaller in every perspective, and I really notice that after taking a trip on the GS. And remember, the PD frame, motor, suspension for the most part was designed in the early to mid 80's. However, for that very reason, it is a lot easier to work on, and you really don't need any special tools.

The big GS is just that, and in every way. Which for me means it is alot more comfortable, and is now the bike I take on trips. It's faster, handles like a sport bike, offers better weather protection, gets better fuel mileage, has ABS and much larger, and better, electrical system and never seases to amaze me as to what it can do. Especially one that is farkelized properly. However, it will require more specialized tools if you reallty have to tear into it. But my experience is that the 1100 / 1150 series of bike's are pretty bulletproof.



So, if the roads are fire lane and gravel, I like the PD. It also gets the nod for short weekend trips around home. For any serious travel though, like the 2,200 mile trip just taken to the MOA and RA rallys, the big GS gets the nod. Either way, you're getting a great bike.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:09 PM   #5
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Great-looking twins you have there! Especially the PD

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I got my repro tank decals from Germany, thinking they're the exact repro. I guess not! Yours looks bolder...

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Old 08-01-2009, 07:12 AM   #6
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fair enough, im more apt to go with the one i can do all the work on.... cause im cheap. ;)

any idea on the going price of a 94 GSPD w/40K?
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:51 AM   #7
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what is the value of one of these? approx 40K miles?
I figure the base value is around $5K for a plain bike in fair condition. Pretty bikes go for much more . Some of the value equation will be decided by how the bike is equipped. I have been seeing ads asking $7K for PDs in good condition with bags and Multiple seats, including the solo seat/rack. I recently traded a V-Strom 1000 for my second PD (first was a 93) and figured the value at $7K. My new bike has 30K miles, Jesse bags, PIAA lights, Hagon shock, HPN drive shaft, plus some spare parts that included a Works Performance shock. The V-Strom was a better bike, especially on the road, but I just didn't get that big of a grin when I rode it. I have seen bikes that showed hard use go for $4500 and I know of a 95PD with less than 10K that the guy is asking $10K. The worst thing about the PDs is the brakes - they are very weak.

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Great-looking twins you have there! Especially the PD

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I got my repro tank decals from Germany, thinking they're the exact repro. I guess not! Yours looks bolder...

It looks like he hit them right on digitally, but just used the wrong font size. They look pretty nice though. I've beem meaning to order an extra set from BMW before these are no longer available. Thanks for reminding me.
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:40 AM   #9
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what is the value of one of these? approx 40K miles?
big issues to look for on this year/model? does the '94 have the same trans prob the early 90's R100gspd's had?
aside from owning a "classic" bike, is there a reason to go for the R100 over a '95 1100GS? (same price and mileage)
one more...and very important question... can i do all my own maintenance on this bike without owning a bunch of specialized equipment? (i'm pretty handy myself and i just dont want to be a slave to a dealer) perhaps this is a misconception about BMW's though...
There are many threads just like this in this forum.

Heres the deal
Airhead bikes are valued at more then they are worth in that you can find far better bike for far less money.
People are willing to spend more on them.

The older airhead bikes are more simple, carbs v FI
normal front suspensions,
They also hold there value (and I believe will hold there value) better and for longer then the oil-heads
They also have their know issues, rubber-cow like handling, wonky electrical systems, bum trannys and drive shafts,

Oil-heads are more modern, more plastic, more wiring, "funky" front suspension,
These bike handle better (if you adjust to the no dive dead feeling front end)
They run cleaner, the FI is pretty good and like most FIs work to get the engine running quick when cold and at elevation.


As for working on the older bikes
It's easy. normal hand tools are all I've ever used on mine
And I've done a number of things to my R100GS including the R&R the driveshaft, tranny and main wiring harness.
They are like working on old VWs

Now this german engineering, that's a whole different story.
They do things that are really rather strange solutions to problems.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:55 AM   #10
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It looks like he hit them right on digitally, but just used the wrong font size. They look pretty nice though. I've beem meaning to order an extra set from BMW before these are no longer available. Thanks for reminding me.
They still are. They're listed on the Max fische with a price, meaning it's in stock. Although at a crazy $36 each!
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:14 PM   #11
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Thumb 1994 R100gspd

Several years ago I bought my '94 PD for $7000

It had 19k miles on it, like new Touratech (Zega) panniers, Ohlin rear shock, Tank & tail bags, gel battery, progressive fork springs, low mileage tires.

Since then, I have rebuilt the carbs, had the circlip done on the tranny, rebuilt the driveshaft, replaced the rear main seal.



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