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Old 10-29-2011, 02:11 PM   #1216
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Spend all morning reading this.... Trying to put the Indy kit I. Two bikes.... And while ther are plenty of beer available ..... We can't press the stock bushing out on either bikes.. Any trick to this....... Perhaps hold off the the malted beverage....

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Old 10-29-2011, 02:30 PM   #1217
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:36 PM   #1218
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The stock bushing in the stock shock needs to be pressed out on a real press.
No amount of beer can do this without a press.
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:12 PM   #1219
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Got The bushing out without removing the shock....... The trick..... Beside the beer..... Was a tool like I had on my then old Yeti mountain bike...... Took 30 seconds...... Pics of the tool to follow tonight.....
Yepeeeeeee....

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Old 10-29-2011, 05:08 PM   #1220
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Must be some kind of home made puller.
The shock is really easy to pull out of the bike anyway.
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:17 PM   #1221
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Homemade puller

We used a bolt through the shock eye - spacer made of pipe on one end that the bushing could fit in to and washers the same size as the bushing stacked on a nut on the other. Held the nut/washer end with a wrench while turning the bolt with impact driver. As the bolt was turned, it pulled the washers through the eye and brought the bushing along. Shock was still on bike. Wasn't the easiest thing I've done, but wasn't too bad.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:35 PM   #1222
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So.....Got two Indy Kit's..... and thought we'd mock with the shock in place...rather than remove it.... I know...I know.... But we did.... Tried to attack my '09 first... Had a shock...gold in color... Made this contraption from a M12 with washers and a SS nut........




Installed...ready to begin.....


Half way there......


Done.......


New bearing, and metal sleeve installed and greased......


First there were two.......


But as the afternoon grew longer.... there were more spectators.......


I got the idea after I had a Yeti mountain bike a few years back..... I had a tool for it to remove the rear shock bearings like this...... and so it went.... Well... until we tried on My friend's black rear shock...... At 250 ft/lbs.... we snapped the grade a M12.........


And then just removed the shock......took it to a shop.... and pressed it out....... So there are some difference in the crush factor here....... Anyway... both bikes done.... ready to ride....... After a good day......




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Old 10-29-2011, 09:18 PM   #1223
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That is a great way to do that! I will recommend that method to all using stock shocks from now on.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:54 PM   #1224
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That is a great way to do that! I will recommend that method to all using stock shocks from now on.
Awesome....... If I had more time..... I would find a M12 with fine thread... Like say 1.50.... Rather than the 1.75 as the
Threads are on the stock bolt. That way less torque is needed....
Thanks for a awesome and inexpensive kit Dan.......

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Old 11-24-2011, 09:27 PM   #1225
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I didn't have the ambition to look through all 80 plus pages so maybe I'm not the first but...



Bent a 12.9 with a Ralle-Moto brace installed.

Looks like an Indy kit will be installed in the near future.
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:07 PM   #1226
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I didn't have the ambition to look through all 80 plus pages so maybe I'm not the first but...



Bent a 12.9 with a Ralle-Moto brace installed.

Looks like an Indy kit will be installed in the near future.
I am no engineer.... But Indy's kit looks like the answer.... I simply cannot see how the bolt bends with that installed..... But yet again.....I cannot see either why pilots plow their planes into a dark mountain side..... Bless their hearts.....

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Old 11-25-2011, 02:38 AM   #1227
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Bent a 12.9 with a Ralle-Moto brace installed.

Looks like an Indy kit will be installed in the near future.
Damn. Glad I have my Indy kit waiting for me at home! I think I'll end up boring out the Ralle-Moto brace to accept the Indy kit; I'll probably bend the subframe before that combination!
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:35 AM   #1228
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Does any one have any knowlegde regarding the purpose of the rubber bushing that goes around the shock bolt and steel bushing between the shock and right side frame support. Other than providing a little vibration isolation for the front seat support, I can't think of any other reason for it. I'm asking because I am thinking of making an extended bushing to replace the steel and rubber combo at the same OD diameter of the rubber and then bridging the "broken back interface of the shock bushing.

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Old 12-10-2011, 08:26 PM   #1229
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Well after putting it off for a long time I checked my shock bolt.

It is bent. Not severely but no question it is bent. Looked slightly bent mounted, came out wiggling as if it was bent, and sure enough. Marking on the bolt from the bushing assembly sleeve indicates it too.

So having the knowledge from this thread, I did check everything properly from the start.

-Torque was proper (100nm) from the factory when I went to remove it.
-Threads do not bottom out so no issues there.

I think that Indy has the best solution going for this.

However that won't stop me from maybe coming up with another solution. I already have some ideas and also some 12.9 bolts on the way of course...

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Does any one have any knowlegde regarding the purpose of the rubber bushing that goes around the shock bolt and steel bushing between the shock and right side frame support. Other than providing a little vibration isolation for the front seat support, I can't think of any other reason for it. I'm asking because I am thinking of making an extended bushing to replace the steel and rubber combo at the same OD diameter of the rubber and then bridging the "broken back interface of the shock bushing.

Thanks

Dave
As for the rubber sleeve it seems to me as it's a bit of a support for the whole "plate" as well. Since the whole plate that fit's onto it is rubber mounted too. Maybe that's what's bending the bolt

I actually neglected to look at it very closely.

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Old 12-16-2011, 07:42 PM   #1230
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Nerds beware.

Researching "Schrodinger's Cat" didn't stop it.

It changed state in a very definite way. No "existing between states" happened here.

Rally moto installed. I'm not confident. I bent this one on a very "average" attempt at trail riding the F8. Plus I trashed the front rim.

Spending my holidays riding my Suzuki while I wait for BMW parts to arrive....FROM MUNICH.

It's very definitely NOT a trail bike. Not much of a road bike either. Not real flash on a dirt road. Works ok if you take it real easy everywhere. Where's the fun in that?

Fast falling out of love with the BMW brand.
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