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Old 01-23-2007, 12:41 PM   #1
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Euro headlamp on/off switch; 2005 1150GS-Adv

Euro headlamp on/off switch; 2005 1150GS-Adv

A little help please. Searched this site for answer; no good result. We have need for part number, for Euro-type right side combination switch, 2005 R1150GS-Adv. Bike has ABS, and heated grips. Customer wishes to be able to extinguish headlamps whilst riding. He's a local police captain so we needn't discuss legal issues with him. We have heard from Jeff Dean that 6131-7650-770 will work. We think it will not work on 2005, due to differences in the electrical connection. What say you?
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Old 01-23-2007, 04:08 PM   #2
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Euro headlamp on/off switch; 2005 1150GS-Adv

A little help please. Searched this site for answer; no good result. We have need for part number, for Euro-type right side combination switch, 2005 R1150GS-Adv. Bike has ABS, and heated grips. Customer wishes to be able to extinguish headlamps whilst riding. He's a local police captain so we needn't discuss legal issues with him. We have heard from Jeff Dean that 6131-7650-770 will work. We think it will not work on 2005, due to differences in the electrical connection. What say you?
Hi Dave,
You may want to call Pat or Kevin Caselli up at Cal BMW 650-966-1183. I'm not certain why the switch wont work on the '05 model year. They might be able to help.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:59 PM   #3
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Did you already check here: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/

At some point you can select european version. These should have the headlamp switch.
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Old 01-24-2007, 04:31 PM   #4
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Did you already check here: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/

At some point you can select European version. These should have the headlamp switch.
Thanks for sharing your ideas. Yes, we checked the Euro listings. We are a BMW Motorrad dealer using the latest factory parts info, the same info that is borrowed by RealOEM. We also have direct access to the dealer-only BMW factory parts technical desk at BMW USA HQ in New Jersey USA. Even having brought to bear all these resources, we believe there remains an irreducible doubt about the exact appropriate part number. Customer will not be converting bike in our shop, which would actually be an easier path for us to follow. All we seek now is confirmation from an installer, or an owner of a 2005 R1150GS-Adv, who has successfully converted to switchable headlamps using either 6131-7650-770 or some other similar BMW switch.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:22 AM   #5
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If part 6131-7650-770 has the switch on it, it should be OK.

What has changed electrically? The wiring should be more or less the same.

Below wiring diagram shows the wiring on a R1150GS including a switch (Pos. S9080) for the headlamp. (I have it like this on my 2001 R1150GS)
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:26 AM   #6
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The next shows the US version. I believe they also started installing it like this on the european models since 2002.

Pos. X9080 shows the wiring connections for the US (continuous light) version. I don't know if this connection is in the handlebar unit. If not, some additional wiring will have to be done.

I will check with someone who knows his way around the technical part of the GS, and let you know.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:11 AM   #7
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I'm pretty sure you'll find that the Euro-switch - which was standard on Brit/Euro sourced BMWs (until 2003, IIRC) - has a completely different plug connector to the newer 'Lights On' switchgear now fitted. I'd doubt that you could get a 'plug & play' part for a 2005 model, unless BMW still make one for a market which doesn't require 'Lights On' (Far East? )...

You could always get the old switchgear and cobble the new plug onto it - if that's a solution that appeals to you and your customer, I suppose...

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Old 01-25-2007, 03:33 AM   #8
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I was under the impression that it was relatively easy to do, but it isn't.

I got the following info from a technician:

Theoretically it would be possible to use the old switch-unit, but this requires additional wiring and modification of existing wiring. And as MikeO mentioned, the connectors won't fit.

He solved this on his GSA by adding a (non-BMW) switch and relay in the instrument cluster. (Relay in the feedline of the lowbeam) This only switches the lowbeam off, not the rear light. Or if you can find a switch that can handle the 55W of the lowbeam (approx. 4.5W), the relay would not be required.
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:15 AM   #9
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Doesn't the GS-P have switched lighting? I know the RT-P's do so it would follow...
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:42 PM   #10
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Doesn't the GS-P have switched lighting? I know the RT-P's do so it would follow...
Many helpful comments offered, but no silver bullet yet. Yes the R1150GS-P had switchable lights. The current BMW dealer ETK (Germ Abbr for electronic parts catalog) specifies 6131-7650-770 for that bike when equipped with heated grips and ABS. Problem is, we have an Adventure, which is not neccesarily equipped with exactly the same electrical connectors as the R1150GS-P. Still interested in finding, simply, incidence of 6131-7650-770 or other switch being succesfully installed, without modification of connectors or anything else, on 2005 BMW R1150GS-Adv with heated grips and ABS.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:06 AM   #11
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HELP with ABS/HTD Grip combination switch!!

i have a bike needing just this type of combination switch/connector - non-molex, 03 R1150 GS, has ABS and heated grips and newer-style connectors.

continuous light is fine with me...

was this part # ever verified to work with a Canadian-spec bike? production date is 07/03. this is the last piece in my project build...
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