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Old 09-21-2014, 12:42 AM   #1
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Question for those with ESA

Guys i just got my bike a couple of weeks ago and i have been fiddling around with the ESA. I think i have it pretty well managed when it comes to paved roads since i have been using these settings depending on road type.

1-City streets (A bit bumpy): Comfort to absorb all the shock
2-Highway: Normal since i don't want my ass to hurt but don't want the shock to soft in case of an emergency fast maneuver.
3-Sprited canyon carving: Sport

Now my main question is how should i be using ESA off road? I devised a questionnaire for you guys to see what you are using when off pavement. My first reaction would be to use comfort since its softer and it would absorb more shock but then i thought that if the suspension is too soft i could be using the shock to its maximum capacity.

What setting are you using when off the pavement?

1-Gravel roads:

2-Muddy trails:

3-Sand:

4-Rocky bumpy stuff:
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Old 09-21-2014, 01:11 AM   #2
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I started off using the comfort setting for general off-road purposes, but am starting to find the sport setting a bit more practical. I'm about 205lbs loaded up.
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Old 09-21-2014, 02:21 AM   #3
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Eh? ESA Setting

I have to say I don`t really feel the difference between the 3 settings: Comfort, Normal, Sport. Must admit that I did not really pay attention to it either... Worth having a closer look I guess.

Off road I put it on Sport on all surfaces.
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:10 AM   #4
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Sport! I'm 154lbs.

usually between sport and comfy, but sport seems to be the most fun. if it's slow going city traffic, sure comfy, but for all else, sport.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:22 PM   #5
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Old 09-21-2014, 04:01 PM   #6
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Sport all of the time. Didn't really want ESA, but wanted ASC, had to get both options in order to get my bike in short order. :)
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Old 09-22-2014, 08:53 AM   #7
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Guys i just got my bike a couple of weeks ago and i have been fiddling around with the ESA. I think i have it pretty well managed when it comes to paved roads since i have been using these settings depending on road type.

1-City streets (A bit bumpy): Comfort to absorb all the shock
2-Highway: Normal since i don't want my ass to hurt but don't want the shock to soft in case of an emergency fast maneuver.
3-Sprited canyon carving: Sport

Now my main question is how should i be using ESA off road? I devised a questionnaire for you guys to see what you are using when off pavement. My first reaction would be to use comfort since its softer and it would absorb more shock but then i thought that if the suspension is too soft i could be using the shock to its maximum capacity.

What setting are you using when off the pavement?

1-Gravel roads:

2-Muddy trails:

3-Sand:

4-Rocky bumpy stuff:

I use Comfort on the highway and street riding in general. Then Sport when off road. Its effect is most noticeable for me on the highway where there are cracks. The Comfort mode seems to significantly smooth them out.

BUT, I am eventually going to upgrade the shock and loose the ESA completely.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:31 AM   #8
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Interesting... What are implications for going with a non-ESA shock?
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:23 AM   #9
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I updated my ESA rear shock with Wilbers inner stuff and couldn't be happier. Now I can actually feel the difference between the different modes, as comfort is now really plush and sport is really stiff.
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Old 09-22-2014, 01:31 PM   #10
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I updated my ESA rear shock with Wilbers inner stuff and couldn't be happier. Now I can actually feel the difference between the different modes, as comfort is now really plush and sport is really stiff.
Can you provide a link, please?
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Old 09-22-2014, 02:07 PM   #11
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Can you provide a link, please?
Well, as a Finn, I contacted the Finnish distributor of Wilbers shocks, who gave me an offer on the parts+work. I approved it and then they ordered the parts from Germany and when they had arrived, I took the shock off, send it to them, got it back in three days and Bob was my uncle.

Basically I now have a Frankenshock in my bike as some parts of the original shock were re-used (eg. the ESA adjusting unit) and some parts came from Germany from Wilbers. Also my friend, who rides a KTM, likes it now as the spring is orange

Total costs were somewhat 550 Eur.

If you need part number or anything, more info here.
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Old 09-22-2014, 02:21 PM   #12
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Thanks for your response!
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:39 PM   #13
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ESA setting offroad

Sport 100% offroad for me. ( + disable ABS & traction control always offroad )
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Old 09-24-2014, 11:18 PM   #14
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City - Normal
Carving - Sport
Offroad - Comfort, but jack up the preload slightly.

I too have had my shock gutted and rebuilt using custom/ohlins/racetech parts.
I only did that because I had an ESC bike.

I would suggest if you are using sport you either have your sag/preload set up wrong...or your spring is the wrong weight.

As for the ASC...what a joke that it...at least on my 2013 version.
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:36 AM   #15
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I have to admit when I first read this thread I thought to myself, "what difference does it make ?" As in all honesty I hadn't noticed a huge difference in the feel of the settings on road.

Your post got me thinking though so I started playing around with the settings….

I ride to work every day and its 40ks each way with around 15ks of really good gravel road that has fast open sections and really tight sections with changes in elevation - A perfect test track. See below.

I set my stopwatch - The bike one, (another thing I thought was pointless that has become really handy) and try to beat my time each day. Kangaroos and oncoming cars notwithstanding.

Here began my study



Some of the corners are really corrugated and this was where I first noticed the difference using comfort mode. I got heaps more grip, much less rear wheel chatter and I can accelerate a lot harder without loosing the rear wheel. I experimented more and found it makes a big difference in other areas too.

This makes sense really when you think about softer damping etc on dirt roads. I wouldn't push it on really rough stuff in this mode but for fast gravel and minor bumps it works well.

I think it really cool that the bike has this feature and I can totally see it helping with longer trips as well and maybe even adding a bit of an extra control/safety aspect on dirt roads as well.
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