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Old 05-28-2013, 04:47 PM   #1
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Question 1965 Jeep Trucks?

I have been toying around with getting a 65' or 66' short bed Chevy truck when I came across a 1965 Jeep Gladiator J200 4X4 with a 327 in it.

I am kind of intrigued by it, but I really don't know anything about them.

What do you know?

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Old 05-28-2013, 05:02 PM   #2
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Get it! It looks better than a Chevy and they aren't nearly as common.

Even though it's a Kaiser, I think all the Full Size Jeep (FSJ) parts are interchangeable even though the later ones were AMC then Chrysler for a bit. The FSJ platform wasn't discontinued 'til like '89 (Grand Wagoneer). So you could easily swap axles, gearboxes, transfer cases etc. AMC 327 is pretty uncommon so I'd definitely keep that just for the cool factor, throw a 4bbl intake, and cam in it and call it good.

plus you didn't see any chevys doing this back in the day

(That's a 70s model)
I like the early grill so much better
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:34 PM   #3
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I found a forum dedicated to FSJs. Forget where now 'cause I don't have the $ to dedicate to a J10/J20 rebuild. There's some seriously 'crazy about the FS Jeep' types that inhabit that forum.

J200 = heavier duty. Remember: back when that truck was made, the only people that had trucks NEEDED trucks. IOW they were built to work, not drive nice.

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Old 05-28-2013, 08:36 PM   #4
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More then likely the 327 is the AMC version, the Vigilante. That is the right year for it.

Not the Chevy 327. Unless someone has been doing some swapping.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:07 PM   #5
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Get it! It looks better than a Chevy and they aren't nearly as common.

Even though it's a Kaiser, I think all the Full Size Jeep (FSJ) parts are interchangeable even though the later ones were AMC then Chrysler for a bit. The FSJ platform wasn't discontinued 'til like '89 (Grand Wagoneer). So you could easily swap axles, gearboxes, transfer cases etc. AMC 327 is pretty uncommon so I'd definitely keep that just for the cool factor, throw a 4bbl intake, and cam in it and call it good.

plus you didn't see any chevys doing this back in the day

(That's a 70s model)
I like the early grill so much better
The top picture makes my tummy churn! Scary!
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:23 PM   #6
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Get it! It looks better than a Chevy and they aren't nearly as common.

The FSJ platform wasn't discontinued 'til like '89 (Grand Wagoneer).
The Grand Wagoneer was made till 1991.

I think they're cool. They're different without being too exotic. You can get replacement parts fairly easily or swap out complete drivetrains. '65 would make it a J-2000 (120" WB) or J-3000 (126" WB). I love the old grill.

http://www.ifsja.org/ is the Full-Size Jeep (FSJ) forum.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:41 PM   #7
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I love the old Jeep trucks! Really cool looking.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:43 PM   #8
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(That's a 70s model)
I like the early grill so much better
You can change out the grilles in like 20 minutes. New to old. A '91 Grand Wagoneer can be looking just like that old Gladiator (at least in the front) in VERY short order. All the body-colored sheet metal you see on the old one is already behind the plastic grille on the new one. That panel did not change
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:41 AM   #9
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More then likely the 327 is the AMC version, the Vigilante. That is the right year for it.

Not the Chevy 327. Unless someone has been doing some swapping.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:56 AM   #10
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I think that the Jeep would look pretty cool either restored to original or a mild resto-mod. They are something that is not seen very often - well at least I have not. What limited searching I have done there doesn't seem to be a lot of parts available for a restoration unlike a chevy or ford which you can basically build a "new" truck from the ground up.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:28 PM   #11
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The top picture makes my tummy churn! Scary!
Not real, early photoshop/photochopped
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Not real, early photoshop/photochopped
yep. that is correct
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:19 PM   #13
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The best one was the military M715. Had a Dana 70 in the rear and a 60 in the front. T98 trans with a divorced transfer case. The engine was a Tornado 6, not very good, but it's not difficult to drop in a Cummins 4BT turbo diesel, then you can pull stumps with it. There are still some around.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:38 PM   #14
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The best one was the military M715. Had a Dana 70 in the rear and a 60 in the front. T98 trans with a divorced transfer case. The engine was a Tornado 6, not very good, but it's not difficult to drop in a Cummins 4BT turbo diesel, then you can pull stumps with it. There are still some around.
There are plenty around but those particular Dana 70 and 60 are not very robust and would want to be replaced if any serious wheeling/stump pulling were to be untertaken.

The stock transfer case is an NP200, which will happily overheat if you drive it at about 50 for half an hour.

4BT is a nice swap but a used one would cost as much as the truck.

Really it'd be less work to buy one and swap the body onto something else. It'd ride nicer too.

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Old 05-29-2013, 08:39 PM   #15
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I had a '76 J-10. Loved that truck. It taught me the most important lesson about 4WD, which is that you can get a whole lot farther from help. By then, they had power steering and brakes with front disks; the '65 probably didn't.
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