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Old 12-15-2014, 08:24 PM   #1
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14-15 Snowmobiles. With two skis.

Late start to the season. Sorry.

MSN's home page today made me laugh.


Last year's gonna be a tough one to beat... some great rides, a week in Jackson for the hillclimbs, and some snocross, hillcross, and hilldrag racing... hopefully the snow gets going and we can get a real start to the season here.

Pro got new IceAge rails... bent the stock ones.




hmm, that's not good...


closer look...
Going to keep an eye on this one.


Pull the top-end apart to check things over




Just about ready to put 'er back together when I saw this cracked skirt...


So it's a pile of parts in a tote for a while...


New pistons and a new cylinder on order, probably arrive shortly after christmas.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:30 PM   #2
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These look like more fun.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...5#post25719425
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:36 PM   #3
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We got about 10 inches of dry powder in Grand Lake. It was still snowing when we left at 11:00 am. Winter Park got more. The sleds were out early this AM, and currently it's 2 degrees.
The groomed trails into town are not open yet, but I think they started on them today. So........"Tis the season".

I still need a couple sleds.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:46 PM   #4
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So first avalanche class of the season last weekend. Do you know what you're doing in the backcountry???

Friday night was spent in the shop going over classroom materials... how to read avalanche reports, gear/equipment basics, theory behind some of it (beacon flux lines, some snow science).

Sort of a long night... After class wrapped up, buddy and I drove about an hour north to pick up two sleds, then an hour and a half south across the state line again to the hotel where we spent the night. Pulled in around 0100, couple hours of sleep, and on the mountain at 0800 the next morning.

Beacon check in the parking lot, then covered shovel/probe techniques before we geared up and headed up the trail.




Stopped a few times on the trail to cover terrain evaluation.


"How steep do you think that slope is?"
You're not as badass a rider as you think you are. Avalanchey slopes are a lot steeper than what most people ride, and it's important to be able to tell what is and isn't dangerous.




Probe line ... Things you should probably know, but hope you never have to do. If you get to this point, you're on a recovery mission... not a rescue.


Interesting melty-freezy layer on the surface. Not a lot of new snow here, most of what we're finding is only ~3ft deep.






Without a whole lot of snow to work with, we spent more time than usual covering snow science topics. Dug a pit to look at the layers:




then took a closer look at some of the faceted snow closer towards the ground. This is the layer that causes the "deep persistent slab" avalanche danger throughout the year - has to do with early-season weather in the high country.


Then did a column test to show how the snow settles and breaks under load. Not something snowmobilers really take the time to do - if we dug a pit every slope we crossed, we'd spend half the day digging pits instead of riding. Big difference between motorized and nonmotorized avalanche education, for things like this.


Headed up the mountain a little further to do companion rescue and beacon search/probe/shovel demos and scenarios.
My buggy for the day... the beast. 800 XP, Aerocharger turbo, 174x3" track...


Made a beacon flower... everyone spreads out and a beacon is placed on the snow in the middle of a meadow. Line up your beacon so the light's in the middle then slowly follow the beacon, keeping the light in the center.
Beacon follows a flux line rather than a direct path to the victim - at certain angles that line can take you quite a ways around. Let the guy with the best signal finish the beacon search while you get your shovel/probe out, once the beacon's been pinpointed you don't have to follow that roundabout flux line.




Quick trip up to the tower, since we were close.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:48 PM   #5
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Our gang.




Followed the powerlines back to the trailhead.


>dat ice crust


1 blow'd up cat on the way home.


Even with shitty snow ..... Still went snowmobiling.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:51 PM   #6
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Oh they are.
For me, personally, it wouldn't replace a real two-ski. They just don't have the surface area or torque/horsepower that a big two-stroke twin-cylinder mountain sled's got.

But I haven't tried one with a turbo yet.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:57 PM   #7
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That looks like the tower @ Williams Peak? The answer to your first question.........Not a clue.................Yet.
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:11 PM   #8
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That looks like the tower @ Williams Peak? The answer to your first question.........Not a clue.................Yet.
Buff Pass, north side of Rabbit Ears. Rode in from the Grizzly Creek lot.

http://www.tylersba.org/
Our intro level classes are free. We do fundraisers and take donations through the year to make that happen, so there's no excuse for not taking a day to get educated.
Bring a sled, beacon/shovel/probe, and your riding partners. They need to know this stuff to save your ass, you need to know this stuff to save their ass. We do have some gear available if you need it.
Since we're mobile, we can do classes almost anywhere. Based out of Ft Collins, so Ears, Cameron Pass, and Snowies are the easiest. We also do a bunch of classes further south in Wolf Creek with Matt Entz/MountainSkillz.
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:27 PM   #9
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We're suckholeing for snow here too and to top it off we already have 2 weak layers. Good advice on taking avy training.
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:14 AM   #10
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I have never been on a snowmobile, but my job is planning to fix that on the 7th with a basic class that they are putting me through. My wife and I just moved to the Jackson Hole area in April and are really looking forward to trying out different experiences. I don't think that sleds are in the cards for this winter, good thing that my work allows for personal use.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:41 AM   #11
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:08 AM   #12
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We are hating it in Alaska! I haven't even fired it up yet this season. Which is extra brutal seeing as I don't even work in the winter. Go away rain!
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:41 PM   #13
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I really need to dig into my sled and fix what I found wrong last year thou I can't remember what the heck it was. The last 2 days have been rain storms so there's no hurry at all.
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:47 PM   #14
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Oh they are.
For me, personally, it wouldn't replace a real two-ski. They just don't have the surface area or torque/horsepower that a big two-stroke twin-cylinder mountain sled's got.

But I haven't tried one with a turbo yet.
I have! Get ready to change your mind once you try one with turbo
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:24 PM   #15
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Well, I got a machine. Ignored all the advice I got on here and got a seriously impractical snowmobile.

In my little village here in Quebec, there are no roads to the outside, but there are snowmobile trails. Apparently it's essential for getting around.

I wanted a 550 fan cooled Skandic or Tundra. I ended up with a 2004 Arctic Cat Mountain Cat 1M 900 EFI with a 151 inch track.

It's interesting. 150+ hp is interesting. Starting it is brutal.
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