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Old 02-17-2004, 10:41 PM   #1
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Berryessa-Knoxville

I was looking at a map last week with a guy in the office. We were looking at the roads around Lake Berryessa and I commented that I had never taken the road north of the lake. Well I finally got my butt in gear on Sunday after lunch and headed out for a ride. The weather said rain was beginning to fall north of the Bay Area so Lake Berryessa was the natural place to go and escape potential holiday weekend crowds.

Getting off the slab in Fairfield it was a familar dash up Suisun Valley -> 121 -> 128 to Berryessa-Knoxville Road. These are nice roads but there were still a few boaters, SUVs and minivans out for a Sunday afternoon drive. I pulled over at one point just to get some space.



Heading north of the lake was new road to me. The maps show this road is "Impassable in Wet Weather." I had heard there were some creek crossings so it sounded like fun. A slight rain began to fall. Just north of the lake:



A few miles from here was the first little water crossing.



Although the road was wet and muddy around the crossing, it was no problem.



As I rode north, the pavement was more and more ragged. The perfect GS road- like a "paved" dirt road. There were 10 or so of the ~12 crossings that had water flowing. I wonder if all the rain from the past 2 days has made this road impassable?

After about 15 - 20 miles of this fun the road runs up out of the valley. I looked back and saw a nice photo op. I swung the bike around and took a picture.



I saw a shiney object in the Anakee. A nice little screw. Well I checked the pressure and guessed that I was okay to keep going to Lower Lake. No telling when I picked up the screw and and it wasn't losing much air. I also preferred to plug it in town if possible. The rain was also picking up.

I pulled into Lower Lake with no problems. There was a nice covered section near a car wash to plug the tire. I've read several times to practice using the Stop-and-Go before you actually need it. Well I hadn't. I learned on the fly and it was a piece of cake.









I decided to take 53 north to 20 then east to 16 and south back toward Esparta. The rain was falling harder by now but these roads are very nice. I noticed chain requirement signs on Hwy 20 (turned around.) I was surprised that they got snow in that area.

Hwy 16 was a treat. Zero traffic and a slow steady rain. This is about 10 miles north of the "wild turkey incident."



The traffic of Cache Creek Casino broke up the party about 30 miles south of here. I picked up 505 in Winters and headed home as it was after dark. I had a very nice afternoon ride on a few roads that were new to me.

So how long should I run with the plug?
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Old 02-18-2004, 09:36 AM   #2
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Nice report -

Be glad the traffic from Cache Creek slowed you down. That is one stretch of road where the CHP is very tough on enthusiatic riders on highway 16.

I know people who will not ride a plugged tire due to the mission critical nature of the rubber on a motorcycle.

I would put a new tire on but in the end i don't have to ride the bike.

Thanks for the pics
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Old 02-18-2004, 10:41 AM   #3
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Great looking area up there Lone Star. I need to get up there. I also neet to practice the tire plugging thing. The Tourance is about to run out of tread so I'll probably drill a hole in it when ready just for the practice.

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Old 02-18-2004, 11:57 AM   #4
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Cant' go wrong with the 'ol Berryessa loop...but

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Great looking area up there Lone Star. I need to get up there. I also neet to practice the tire plugging thing. The Tourance is about to run out of tread so I'll probably drill a hole in it when ready just for the practice.

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Your next move is hang a right on Reiff Rd. (a few miles after the tunnel/quarry/Solient Green factoy..whatever it is) and take the BLM road up and over to 116. All kinda shit back there. Lakes, rivers, abandoned mines. Great for 'froadin. They close it during winter but make sure you add it to your list of things to do while your doing that loop.
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Old 02-18-2004, 02:00 PM   #5
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Thanks for the nice report Ron. I've been on Knoxville-Berryessa road a couple of times. It is a great "GS" road.

The last time I was up there was in the winter the day after some heavy rains had fallen. The first water crossing you showed (the one closest to Lake Berryessa) was over a foot deep and flowing so fast that it would have been dangerous to cross it. The downstream side of that crossing is a several foot vertical drop off into the rocky stream bed. Decided not to chance it. Some guys in 4 wheel drive jeeps also bailed out. Later in the season slime grows on those concrete slabs and even though the water is shallow, you need to be careful not to make any sudden moves or you can end up in the drink.

If you are up in that area again on your GS there is some reasonably fun dirt riding to be had in the hills to the left after you make most of the water crossings in the Knoxville Recreation Area, land administered by the BLM. Their website is here. Look for a dirt road climbing up the hills on the left side of the road just past most of the water crossings. There is a network of pretty fun dirt roads up there to explore. Ran into a couple of kids on dirt bikes who looked bug eyed to see me cruise by on the big GS.
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Old 02-18-2004, 02:14 PM   #6
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Hey Kirk...

Have you ever done the BLM's off of Reiff Rd., to the right? I've puttered around in the area you're talking about but was disappointed that there is no way out other than the way in. True? Also the large amount of Yahoo's drinking beer and firing shot guns right where you ride past, has made me nervous.
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Thanks for the nice report Ron. I've been on Knoxville-Berryessa road a couple of times. It is a great "GS" road.

The last time I was up there was in the winter the day after some heavy rains had fallen. The first water crossing you showed (the one closest to Lake Berryessa) was over a foot deep and flowing so fast that it would have been dangerous to cross it. The downstream side of that crossing is a several foot vertical drop off into the rocky stream bed. Decided not to chance it. Some guys in 4 wheel drive jeeps also bailed out. Later in the season slime grows on those concrete slabs and even though the water is shallow, you need to be careful not to make any sudden moves or you can end up in the drink.

If you are up in that area again on your GS there is some reasonably fun dirt riding to be had in the hills to the left after you make most of the water crossings in the Knoxville Recreation Area, land administered by the BLM. Their website is here. Look for a dirt road climbing up the hills on the left side of the road just past most of the water crossings. There is a network of pretty fun dirt roads up there to explore. Ran into a couple of kids on dirt bikes who looked bug eyed to see me cruise by on the big GS.
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Old 02-18-2004, 04:55 PM   #7
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Nice one, Lone*Star. I love riding up there around the lake. There's never anyone up there and the roads are pretty fine indeed.
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Old 02-18-2004, 06:25 PM   #8
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I saw a shiney object in the Anakee. A nice little screw. Well I checked the pressure and guessed that I was okay to keep going to Lower Lake. No telling when I picked up the screw and and it wasn't losing much air. I also preferred to plug it in town if possible. The rain was also picking up.

I pulled into Lower Lake with no problems. There was a nice covered section near a car wash to plug the tire. I've read several times to practice using the Stop-and-Go before you actually need it. Well I hadn't. I learned on the fly and it was a piece of cake.











So how long should I run with the plug?
I have run my rear Tourance with one plug for over 7000 miles and a second plug over 5000 miles. Some of those miles have been two-up and not slow, neither~!

YMMV but I have total confidence in mine due to previous experience.
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:54 PM   #9
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I haven't gone to the right. I will look over my maps and see whats out there. Thanks for the tip.

Re the Knoxville BLM dirt roads...yes, you can start at the south entrance and go to the north entrance. The road wasn't on my GPS but was right there in front of me so I took it. The area isn't particularly pretty and there are guys in trucks out there, but I didn't run into anyone shooting or any yahoos or anything. And dirt roads are kind of hard to find close to the Bay Area. I thought that it was a classic GS ride to take the Berryessa-Knoxville Road through the water crossings, then climb up into the hills and do the dirt roads, then come back out onto the pavement somewhere near the non-existant town of Knoxville, and take the Morgan Valley road into Lower Lake. That Morgan Valley road is a fun two lane back woods road. The combination of water crossings, dirt roads, and high speed twisty paved roads seemed to me to be the perfect example of a GS experience. I even had the fun of dropping a couple of guys on sport bikes coming into Lower Lake on the pavement.

The best dirt roads that I have encountered in that general area were immediately to the east of Clear Lake. Walker Ridge, Bear Valley, Bartlett Springs Road, etc. I haven't had a chance to mess around at Middle Creek and around Stonyford, but I hear that they are the best of all.
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Old 02-18-2004, 09:46 PM   #10
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So how long should I run with the plug?
you should run the plug just long enough to get to a tire shop that can do a proper inside hot patch. THOSE will last the life of the tire.

If the tire is like 70% worn or something, I'd probably just replace it, but I've run 5000 miles on a Z4 that I had hotpatched when nearly brand new, including a bunch of buck-twentyfive in the desert in 115F+ weather (I'd kinda forgotten about the patch), without any problems whatsoever.

I gotta get me one of those plug-n-go kits, that looks *way* better than the 7 year old beemer toy plugs that are going crusty under my seat...
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Old 02-19-2004, 08:52 AM   #11
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Lone*Star, you gotta watch out on those roads. It was on that road while following the lake that I hit that vulture last June.

Rieff Road/Rayhouse Road, between Morgan Valley Road and Highway 16 isn't a great road compared to others, but it does provide a different path for Advriders. The connection at Highway 16 is difficult to find, and it is closed in the winter due to the low water bridge across Cache Creek. The terminus is located at the southern-most creekside park within the Cache Creek canyon. The entrance to the park is on a bend in the road, and then you have to follow the creek downstream a couple of hundred yards before dropping down to the crossing. From there, its all good. At the top of the ridge, there is a four-way interchange. Going north follows the ridgeline to the put-in point for the Cache Creek rafters. Don't do this on the weekends in the summer, unless you like eating dust behind old school buses. However, if the road is clear, it is a hoot to say the least. It's like riding a roller coaster on your bike. Going south takes you to a dead end quite a few miles towards Berryessa. There is a trailhead from there into the BLM land. I am told that it is open to all users, but I don't know for sure. Going west from this interchange, the road drops you eventually to a lake you can't touch, past an old mine, and eventually onto Morgan Valley Road. I've heard of experiences of this road during rainy weather, and it wasn't good. The road turns muddy, especially on the Cache Creek side of the ridge. We're talking the real sticky type that packs in fenders and such.
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kirkmoon, I go exploring in that area every June. My annual weekend event takes dual sporters into the Mendocino National Forest. We've done all of those areas you've mentioned, including going through the Stonyford OHV. There are many roads and connections to get thoroughly lost in that area.
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Hey Kirk...
Stonyford, Indian Valley and Bartlett Springs are some of my favorites. I haven't spent a ton of time up there, but I have a ball everytime I poke around up there.
On another note...Whammo (josh) The Genius (monte) and I (brad) are taking off tomorrow. Coastal jaunt, couple a days camping. Shelter Cove and the surrounding dirt roads. Wanna join us? Short notice but give it a shot. Swing by the Dogpatch Saloon tonight and say Hi. I'll be working and Josh and Monte will come down. First beer is on me.
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Stonyford, Indian Valley and Bartlett Springs are some of my favorites. I haven't spent a ton of time up there, but I have a ball everytime I poke around up there.
On another note...Whammo (josh) The Genius (monte) and I (brad) are taking off tomorrow. Coastal jaunt, couple a days camping. Shelter Cove and the surrounding dirt roads. Wanna join us? Short notice but give it a shot. Swing by the Dogpatch Saloon tonight and say Hi. I'll be working and Josh and Monte will come down. First beer is on me.
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Thanks for the invite but I'm stuck in town all day Saturday. Hope you have a great trip. Have a beer for me!
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Cool report dude...I need to get on that road...
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