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Old 10-23-2009, 07:53 PM   #691
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Add my name to the list. I just had my rear wheel bearings replaced under warranty at 6,356 miles, during the 6,000 mile service. According to the tech, they were "noisy and notchy."

My bike is a 2009, build date in August of 2008.

I'll echo other sentiments here. I sold three bikes to get my F800GS. It's the only bike I have now. It's the best and most versatile bike I've ever owned. (Out of 11.) I'm super happy with it.

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Old 10-24-2009, 09:41 AM   #692
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Question Me too.... isn't this club fun!!

Took mine into Bobs BMW in Jessup MD, for a DID chain replacement (OEM was spitting O rings). Funniest thing i saw was when he took the old chain off, he went to a big tool carrier marked ''BMW mottorad Special Tools'' and took out a bolt cropper and just snipped my old chain off! Thats my kinda Tech!!! Anyway 7143 miles on the clock asked the tech to look at the bearings after reading this thread .
Surprise surprise the bearings had gone as well as the four rubbers that holds the sprocket carrier in place and apparently my AXLE was CROOKED !!! Tech said the axle was the cause of the fault and all parts would be replaced under warranty . However now I'm stuck with a loaner as the parts arn't in stock....
Guess thats better that spitting a bearing at highway speeds on I95 in rush hour
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:36 PM   #693
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Old 10-24-2009, 03:04 PM   #694
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:18 PM   #695
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Add my name to the list. I checked my rear wheel bearings at 10,500 miles. Brake side feels notchy. The dealer said bring it in, but we will probably need to order the parts. Closest dealer is 100 miles from me, that's 400 miles to make 2 round trips each time I have a recall or warranty issue. Still love the bike but I'll be riding the KLX400 tomorrow. It's good to have a second bike if you own a F800GS.

It is a 2009, build date in 7/08.
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:44 PM   #696
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Just to move the list forward again and add our new contestants:

tmex
Chi-Town
YetiGS [7/08]
Joel Wisman [12/08]
zaner32 (front only)
ROYAL COACHMAN
kkug
ABeef
LILGS
Bayner
bxr140
F8GS
v8toilet [8/08]
Maddaddy
cisco
wscollay [7/09] (twice!!)
PackMule
EnderTheX
BykMyk
njoytheride
Roonie [10/08] (not warrantied)
dukedar [2/09]
Cowboy2
mapuda [12/08]
johngil
Ducksbane [11/08]
llamapacker [650]
cbOwl [12/08]
RobStar [11/08]
kgwest [8/08]
drrags [11/08]
EasyJet_rc [04/09] [Australia]
Robhar54 [8/08]
jaycommando
goodtimes [10/08]
gwhis [7/08]
TXMedic [9/08]
GJGSRider [07/08]
chunter
5thTry [7/08]
5thTry's Svc Mgr

As of 10/30 that's 41 on the list (I underlined every fifth person).


Can you latest three please file complaints on the NTSB website. Here's the link: Link to file notice


Thanks in advance!
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:50 PM   #697
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Who has good bearings?

Just so we can get some balance.
Any chance of compiling a list of people who DON'T have this problem?
I mean 36 means nothing if it's the total out of the 1000's that have been sold.
But very significant if it's, say out of 100 F8 owners on this forum.
Count me as 1, mine are fine.
Also, this seems, by and large, a US problem, I wonder why this is?
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:03 AM   #698
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Good questions.

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Also, this seems, by and large, a US problem, I wonder why this is?
Don't think so: http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182049

You're right though--the sample is undoubtedly skewed. Who knows what percentage of F800GS riders peruse ADVrider, see this thread, post in it...

36 people so far seems like a fair number to me though. I was surprised to see it was that many.

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Old 10-25-2009, 06:45 AM   #699
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Just so we can get some balance.
Any chance of compiling a list of people who DON'T have this problem?
I mean 36 means nothing if it's the total out of the 1000's that have been sold.
But very significant if it's, say out of 100 F8 owners on this forum.
Count me as 1, mine are fine.
Also, this seems, by and large, a US problem, I wonder why this is?
You should start a thread with a poll. It'll be a little bit more accurate.
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:28 AM   #700
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You should start a thread with a poll. It'll be a little bit more accurate.
Good idea! It's impossible to get any idea of the seriousness of this problem without more data.

Just for the record, I now have 16,400 miles on my F800GS, many of them off-pavement, through water crossings, etc., and so far no hint of a bearing problem. I know of one other Oregonian here who has more than 18,000 miles on his with no bearing problem. You'd think that if it really were a manufacturing flaw, it would have cropped up with either of us.

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Old 10-25-2009, 10:06 AM   #701
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Good idea! It's impossible to get any idea of the seriousness of this problem without more data.

Just for the record, I now have 16,400 miles on my F800GS, many of them off-pavement, through water crossings, etc., and so far no hint of a bearing problem. I know of one other Oregonian here who has more than 18,000 miles on his with no bearing problem. You'd think that if it really were a manufacturing flaw, it would have cropped up with either of us.

David
Maybe BMW has two suppliers for the rear hubs. One got it right and the other didn't??

Can't say it was a bad batch of hubs since they span such wide spread of build dates. Don't think it was a bad batch of bearings since people have had them fail twice. My thoughts also rely on Woody's analysis so . . .
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:00 PM   #702
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Maybe BMW has two suppliers for the rear hubs. One got it right and the other didn't??

Can't say it was a bad batch of hubs since they span such wide spread of build dates. Don't think it was a bad batch of bearings since people have had them fail twice. My thoughts also rely on Woody's analysis so . . .
Always possible that they're making the hubs on multiple machines, and only one is out of spec.
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:46 PM   #703
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Always possible that they're making the hubs on multiple machines, and only one is out of spec.
My guess is that they are cutting them on a CNC lathe, and only checking critical dimensions once per hour, at best. If they don't use tool monitoring equipment, a worn or chipped tool will screw the dimensions up, and they won't know it until the next check. Or, if an offset is entered wrong (or not entered at all), dimensions would be out too. Or possibly, they just have to big of a tolerance on the print the machine operator is working off of....

Or, if they were made in America, the operator didn't even bother to do the checks.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:27 PM   #704
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I am having my bearing checked while they replace my gas tank and straiten my bmw bark busters at the shop this week. I had mine replaced just before I went on my recent 3000 mile trip so I have about 4k miles on these new bearings with varying surfaces. This should give me a good idea if it is the bearings or the hub. My bearings were replaced with the new "red seal" bearings instead of the black.

^^ And what the hell does that guy mean about American quality checks? We have pride in our work and American machining and tools are some of the best in the world. Import steel is crap and precision tools made by the Swiss are for watches not engines.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:42 AM   #705
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Just to move the list forward again and add our new contestants:

tmex
Chi-Town
YetiGS [7/08]
Joel Wisman [12/08]
zaner32 (front only)
ROYAL COACHMAN
kkug
ABeef
LILGS
Bayner
bxr140
F8GS
v8toilet [8/08]
Maddaddy
cisco
List shortened for quoting purposes.....


As of today that's 36 on the list (I underlined every fifth person).


Can you latest three please file complaints on the NTSB website. There's a link a page or two back. It's very important.

Thanks in advance!
Yeti,

Add my son's name to the list, TXMedic. He had his rear bearings replaced w/9K on the odo.

I think his bike was built in 9/08.
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