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Old 03-26-2010, 11:13 AM   #841
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They replaced your hub? Or your bearings?
Hub, spokes, axle, spacers, everything except the rim (which they relaced).
I don't have the contact info on me now, but it's Honda of Houston in Katy TX and the service manager is Dan. All this stuff is buried in this thread somewhere. It happened around September or October I think.
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:41 AM   #842
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Hub, spokes, axle, spacers, everything except the rim (which they relaced).
I don't have the contact info on me now, but it's Honda of Houston in Katy TX and the service manager is Dan. All this stuff is buried in this thread somewhere. It happened around September or October I think.
That's right, I remember now...
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:05 PM   #843
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[quote=YetiGS]They replaced your hub? Or your bearings?[/quote]
they re-laced his rear wheel wih a new hub that was bored right ,,hence 10,000 miles later it still feels like new,,,,,DO-ABLE

FYI in the affected bad hubs,,the nominal error that i found in the dozen wheels we have repaired is the disc brake side was .0015'' too tight and the sprocket side varied between .0005 and .001 too tight ie over the .001'' spec

hence it was the disc side bearing that took a dump first in practically all the machines.

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They did for me (Honda of Houston). But I suspect a lot of it has to do with how enthusiastic your dealer supports you. And IIRC I already 12k miles on mine. BTW, 10,000 miles later I just checked them and they feel like new.

Hey, does anyone know if the XChallenge rear wheel fits the F800GS?
sorry ddrags,,,the F800GS hub is much bigger and wider than the X-challenge

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Old 03-30-2010, 07:57 AM   #844
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Did you check your bearings? Are they shot? I wouldn't expect my dealer to check my bearings for me under warranty either.


When I discovered mine were bad my dealer initially told me the same thing. I then took the wheel in with the crunchy bearings and they agreed to cover them.

Same here. They weren't initially very receptive, but I was persistent. They were clearly in worse shape than the front bearings (or any other bearing on any bike I've owned) and I insisted that I didn't think I should have to suffer a catastrophic failure at speed for them to be replaced.
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Old 04-01-2010, 07:55 PM   #845
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another crunchy bearing

With plans to head west on a multi-day dirt ride in a few weeks, I started going over the bike and checked my wheel bearings. The left (brake disk side) rear bearing is very notchy. Right side is OK. This is an early production bike, I got it in November of 2008, it has about 8500 miles on it.

Off to the dealer in the AM to see what they say, then I'll weigh my options.
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:07 PM   #846
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Just to bring the list to the top[end] here it is:

tmex
Chi-Town
YetiGS [7/08]
Joel Wisman [12/08]
zaner32 (front only)
ROYAL COACHMAN
kkug
ABeef
LILGS
Bayner
bxr140
F8GS
v8toilet [8/08]
Maddaddy
cisco
wscollay [7/09] (twice!!)
PackMule
EnderTheX
BykMyk
njoytheride
Roonie [10/08] (not warrantied)
dukedar [2/09]
Cowboy2
mapuda [12/08]
johngil
Ducksbane [11/08]
llamapacker [650]
cbOwl [12/08]
RobStar [11/08]
kgwest [8/08]
drrags [11/08]
EasyJet_rc [04/09] [Australia]
Robhar54 [8/08]
jaycommando
goodtimes [10/08]
gwhis [7/08]
TXMedic [9/08]
GJGSRider [07/08]
chunter
5thTry [7/08]
5thTry's Svc Mgr
Ironman ('10)
jjoster
Singletrack mind
pwrcat
Bluebull2007
Klorg [1/09]
zaner32 [9/08]
craftycoder
Pomo

As of 4/3 that's 48 on the list (I underlined every fifth person).


If your bearings have failed, please file a complaint on the NTSB website. Here's the link: Link to file notice


Thanks in advance!
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:40 PM   #847
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Just to bring the list to the top[end] here it is:

tmex
Chi-Town
YetiGS [7/08]
Joel Wisman [12/08]
zaner32 (front only)
ROYAL COACHMAN
kkug
ABeef
LILGS
Bayner
bxr140
F8GS
v8toilet [8/08]
Maddaddy
cisco
wscollay [7/09] (twice!!)
PackMule
EnderTheX
BykMyk
njoytheride
Roonie [10/08] (not warrantied)
dukedar [2/09]
Cowboy2
mapuda [12/08]
johngil
Ducksbane [11/08]
llamapacker [650]
cbOwl [12/08]
RobStar [11/08]
kgwest [8/08]
drrags [11/08]
EasyJet_rc [04/09] [Australia]
Robhar54 [8/08]
jaycommando
goodtimes [10/08]
gwhis [7/08]
TXMedic [9/08]
GJGSRider [07/08]
chunter
5thTry [7/08]
5thTry's Svc Mgr
Ironman ('10)
jjoster
Singletrack mind

As of 4/1 that's 44 on the list (I underlined every fifth person).


If your bearings have failed, please file a complaint on the NTSB website. Here's the link: Link to file notice


Thanks in advance!
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:05 PM   #848
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Make that 45

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Count me in. Since the nearest dealer is 3 hours away, I just shipped it to Woody for a no-hassle fix.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:01 AM   #849
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I showed up at my dealer this AM, wheel in hand. Word this AM is that BMW doesn't know about this yet in any official way. Dealer promises to file a PUMA report first thing Monday morning. Word to the wise though: Even though some inmates have had luck getting service on an un-mounted wheel, I was told to put the wheel back on the bike and bring the whole thing in. So much for saving time and trouble.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:10 AM   #850
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:21 AM   #851
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How many of you are doing creek crossings and power washing without checking and repacking?

I know most people here use their bike a lot harder than the average person.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:42 AM   #852
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How many of you are doing creek crossings and power washing without checking and repacking?

I know most people here use their bike a lot harder than the average person.
folks...the bearings that are going bad are double sealed bearings protected by double lipped external seals...power washing and creek crossings won't even get to them

'tis the undersized bore on the affected batch of hubs out there...AMEN
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:16 AM   #853
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folks...the bearings that are going bad are double sealed bearings protected by double lipped external seals...power washing and creek crossings won't even get to them

'tis the undersized bore on the affected batch of hubs out there...AMEN

So to clarify here are you saying that you have measured the hubs and some hubs are ok (within spec) and others are "affected" and not within the same spc?

If this is the case then how much sould you charge to check the spec? Or what is the spec so we can check our own with an accurate caliper or local machine shop?
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Old 04-02-2010, 07:56 PM   #854
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I showed up at my dealer this AM, wheel in hand. Word this AM is that BMW doesn't know about this yet in any official way. Dealer promises to file a PUMA report first thing Monday morning. Word to the wise though: Even though some inmates have had luck getting service on an un-mounted wheel, I was told to put the wheel back on the bike and bring the whole thing in. So much for saving time and trouble.

My bike was in and "checked" twice with the wheel on the bike. If they're using the official BMW runout check, you're not going to see a problem until the bearings are already completely destroyed (and risking a huge failure at speed). After they said "yeah, they're fine", I took the wheel off and brought it back. "Oh, yeah, I guess they are bad..."

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Old 04-02-2010, 09:00 PM   #855
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once more ..clarifying what's happening vs what ain't ,,,,the cause of these failures

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So to clarify here are you saying that you have measured the hubs and some hubs are ok (within spec) and others are "affected" and not within the same spc?

If this is the case then how much sould you charge to check the spec? Or what is the spec so we can check our own with an accurate caliper or local machine shop?
i know,,i know,,,stragglers on this thread if ya haven't been here from the beginning will still chime in with ''possible scenarios why these bearings are failing,,,no problem

here's the the link to the analysis i performed on a certifiably notchy wheel bearing ,,,the dozen or so that have been to my shop for ''analysis and repair ''mimicked that one within .00025'',,,essentially all had the disc side bore be smaller then the sprocket side bore and both were .001-.0015'' too small/too tight over wheel bearing standards for crush

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=15

this link will take you thru the journey step by step
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