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Old 10-04-2009, 12:42 PM   #76
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I hope to join in for Sat and Sun, wherever the camp happens to be.

Half the campsites at Kirk Creek are first come first serve. I was there 2 times during the summer and had no problem getting a site. Just get there late morning when others are checking out. This time of year should be even easier.
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Old 10-04-2009, 02:31 PM   #77
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When 3" of rain hits the ground in that area.
That's what the rangers have said on numerous occasions.
Called numerous times over the years hoping for a variation in the answer.
I guess 3" of rain on the ground would make for a messy trip too, but one of the other fellas on the line said the "campsite" he shows in the photos should be outside the forest. Not sure who's land it is then...
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:11 PM   #78
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NFS map of the area....



(click for full sized). not sure which campground or road you're talking about.
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:41 PM   #79
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The campground spot I was hoping to use is in the light green shaded
area south of Willow Creek. Listed as "other national forest" in the
legend on the map.

I've been digging and what I'm coming up with is pretty simple.

The USFS camp fire requirements are "The" camp fire
open fire requirements. No exceptions even for private property.

SLO-KLR suggested Nacamiento and Ponderosa USFS campgrounds,
both off of Nacamiento/Fergeson Rd. and very easy to find.

Pondersosa had a big fire this year and may or may not be open.

I'll check into it.


It's getting cold in the evenings and a warm camp fire would be nice.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:09 PM   #80
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per the maps' symbols, Naciemento is 'unimproved' while Ponderosa is a proper campground. Not sure how significant that actually is.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:11 PM   #81
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Ah, it's just not in a wilderness area - that's good. I too think a fire would be ideal, but not even Kirk's Creek has that good of a setup. Dang, maybe someone could bring a fire ring?

One more thing; aren't there some campgrounds off SCRR? Maybe they have fire rings?
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:54 PM   #82
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Would a ring of rocks work ?
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:04 PM   #83
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Ah, it's just not in a wilderness area - that's good. I too think a fire would be ideal, but not even Kirk's Creek has that good of a setup. Dang, maybe someone could bring a fire ring?

One more thing; aren't there some campgrounds off SCRR? Maybe they have fire rings?

if it was in a wilderness area, would be no bikes, no roads. hiking or horseback only.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:29 PM   #84
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Would the camp spot you're thinking of be Alder Creek? on google earth, there's a pretty good sized dirt road that passes right by this, just to the south of Los Burros Rd, this might be 23S01 ?

sadly, that map I pieced together, from segments on the USFS site, you can't make out most of the roads.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:32 AM   #85
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ah, http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/forestvisito...dres-north.pdf is the map with the correct legend.

red italic forestry routes are now foot trails only. only the black non-italic ones are for vehicles, and the ones not in boxes are not for passenger cars.

gates in red are permanent closures. gates in black are seasonally closed.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:12 AM   #86
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Ponderosa campground is open.

It's a full service campground on Nacamiento/Fergeson Rd. right on the western boundry of Ft. Hunter Liggett.

Nacamiento campground is also on Nacamiento/fergeson rd. a short distance away - just a bit more primative.

Both are on the USFS list as being approved for camp fires. No other USFS camp sites along SCRR or Los Burros
Rd. cross over to the approved site list.

Monterey Ranger District
Arroyo Seco Campground /Group Camp
Arroyo Seco Day Use Area
Bottchers Gap Campground
China Camp
Escondido Campground
Kirk Creek Campground
Nacimiento Campground
Mill Creek Day Use Area
Plaskett Creek Campground/Group Camp
Ponderosa Campground
Sand Dollar Day Use Area
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:09 PM   #87
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I am thinking about trucking my 640 to the campsite. It's only couple of hours away and I ride these paved roads all the time anyway.
As a benefit I can bring firewood,cold beer, nice camping gear etc. I like to sleep in comfort and my sleeping pad is bigger than my motorcycle. Also nights getting colder and colder.
I can bring some gear for guys coming from San Jose/Penninsula area. Drop it my place in advance, before friday(redwood city).

We just need to decide on the location.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:18 PM   #88
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Ponderosa campground is open.

It's a full service campground on Nacamiento/Fergeson Rd. right on the western boundry of Ft. Hunter Liggett.

Nacamiento campground is also on Nacamiento/fergeson rd. a short distance away - just a bit more primative.
note both Nacamiento and Ponderosa charge fees, $10 or $15 per space, with 6-8 people and 2 vehicles per space max. you can probably get away with 4-6 bikes per space.

pit toilets, no potable water!
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:30 PM   #89
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note both Nacamiento and Ponderosa charge fees, $10 or $15 per space, with 6-8 people and 2 vehicles per space max. you can probably get away with 4-6 bikes per space.

pit toilets, no potable water!
Water I was planning on bringing.

Also a shovel.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:37 PM   #90
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That's what I was down there for. Seven days of surf at Willow -
no need to venture anywhere else. Mid-week my friend John and I had
it all to ourselves for hours, more surf than you could ride. Smallest days
were head high/ head high plus. The bigger days were 8'-10' on the face
with bigger 12' sets sweeping through to keep you thinking.
who... what? Now im interested
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