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Old 08-27-2009, 01:54 PM   #1
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Harbor Freight Tire Changer and Balancer

Being the cheap guy that I am, and unemployed to boot, I decided to buy the HF changer and balancer, even though there are beautiful, quality machines out there.

I am going to post some pics of things I did, but not changing a tire as JVB got that covered.

I can say I changed the first motorcycle tire in my life today, and the taking off and putting back on part was about an hour. I played with the balancing for awhile, so I didn't time that. But it was relatively easy.

To be complete: The bike is a R1200GS, and the new tires are Shinko 705's.

First pic: The machine modified with foot extensions.



Yes, those are 2x6's and the supports are 4x4's. The feet are bolted to the machine with 3/8" by 3" lag bolts. Both them at Tractor Supply since they sell by the pound. Bolts and washers=$1.05

Total so far=$105 for machine and bolts. 2x6's were left over from decking project but would run $5. 4x4 about the same.

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Old 08-27-2009, 01:59 PM   #2
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Next.....................

I heard about mojo blocks and saw the ones Kermit made for Jim. Looking at the pics I decided to make my own from a block of 1x1 nylon and the same bolts he used purchased from McMaster-Carr.

Results:



Cost for materials = $33 enough to make 2-3 sets. Plus $12 of that was a 82degree countersink for assuring the heads are below the surface.

Total (counting about one set worth) plus previous stuff = $120.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:06 PM   #3
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Seems like you are in the middle of writing a great thread. You better keep on writing cause I really want to keep on reading!!!
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:07 PM   #4
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And then............

I decided to fore go the very, very nice mojo bar or the no-mar one because, what can I say? I am cheap. JVB used the HF provided one for removal so..... I tried it with an interesting modification.

I slipped a welding glove over the end up into the thumb and soaked it in my proprietary solution:



With a little water added.......using this sophisticated application brush:



Welding gloves, three sets for $7 from HF so one pair for this project= $2.34, call it $3 so total = $123 but using common household stuff I had.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:14 PM   #5
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Onward..............

Removal worked good with the HF bar......and the lower bead slipped on easy. Then the HARD part.......I needed to get the upper bead on.

I used a C-clamp with a piece of leather from the welding glove as my bead stop (per JVB pictorial). I then, using this:



modified similarly to the HF bar was covered like this:



I went about half way round and then used a second C-clamp with more leather from the glove and clamped the bead there. Then I spooned some more, moved the second clamp and eventually popped the bead over the rim. I might add here that the C-clamps aid in the placement of the bead because they push the tire toward the center of the rim and the two clamps really helped that cause......

No additional cost so total stands at $123. Used C-clamps and spoon I had with leather from glove.

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Old 08-27-2009, 02:24 PM   #6
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OK, something completely different.......

Tire on, time to get to balancing. On another thread I had posed the questions about Mark Parnes' adapter for the large hole R12GS wheel. I chose my dimensions and machined an adapter that holds the wheel different than the thumb screw nylon shim arrangement:



Assembled:



And on the balancer:



Back side:


Total cost of materials for adapter= $56 but aluminum was enough for 4 or 5 adapters so allocated cost = $8 plus $12 for bearing nut. Total now stands at $143.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:32 PM   #7
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And so it goes..............

Picture of the Shinko on the rim on the adapter on the balancer:



So the balancer was about $65 with shipping. Lastly, I decided, despite being a cheap guy, I wanted to get wheel weights right away so I went to Napa and bought a box of 15 strips for $37.

I balanced the wheel with 7 - 1/4 ounce pieces and mounted it back on the bike.

Total to get tire changed= $ 245. Saved $30 or so from the local shop on this one. Will be saving the same tomorrow on the front. Since cones come with the HF unit I will need no more additional stuff.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:36 PM   #8
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And lastly....

I will be machining an adapter for my wife's R1150RS in the near future, again using already purchased materials. I figure I will get my money back in a total of four tire changes (8 wheels total) or so...probably will be in less than a year.

Hope this helps with some questions people have about the HF units.

(oh, I didn't mention the $200 for the chop saw to cut stock, or the $40 for lathe accessories from HF but they were long overdue and don't count.........)

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Old 08-27-2009, 02:53 PM   #9
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I bought one of those HF ones and so far so good. Your mods look good but being a cheap guy I'm wondering why you didn't use Dynabeads or Airsoft pellets for balancing.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:02 PM   #10
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I bought one of those HF ones and so far so good. Your mods look good but being a cheap guy I'm wondering why you didn't use Dynabeads or Airsoft pellets for balancing.
OK.........deep breath.....don't think they work. (funny the kid is into airsoft.........)

I have read a couple threads........just call me skeptical.
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Old 08-27-2009, 05:21 PM   #11
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I stuck them in my tires 4000 miles ago and seem just fine, I'll use them for the next set too.

This video convinced me to try them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg
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I stuck them in my tires 4000 miles ago and seem just fine, I'll use them for the next set too.

This video convinced me to try them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg

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Old 08-27-2009, 09:07 PM   #13
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:02 AM   #14
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DO you have any pictures of the tire mounter in action. Removal and installation?
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parlor trick
Skeptic !!


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