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Old 07-23-2010, 03:49 PM   #46
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Very sweet setup. Wonder if you put one on each side how cool she would run? Hmmm! You could slip the clutch in the woods for a year with a high comp piston and a huge cam never get warm!

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More progress last night.
I made an oil line guide from 1" X 3/8" aluminum. Made with a drill press and band saw. It is designed to keep the oil lines off of the exhaust. It bolts to the "wing/scoop" mount on the left side of the bike (with a 1/4" spacer). It splits in half for service.



Still getting the hose routing figured out. Getting close.
Man I love making stuff!

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Old 07-23-2010, 05:01 PM   #47
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Holy chit Mark.........that`s some nice work........are you single???? i`ll kick my wife out,,you move in

Are you planing on selling those brackets,might sell a few...


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Im in for some. What oil cooler did you go with? Where did you get it and how much?

That is amazing wish i could fab like that.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:31 PM   #48
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On the little bar on front of the cooler you can weld a metal screen to protect the cooler. If your going to make the cooler bracket I'd buy too. Ben
Hi Ben,
You are reading my mind! I made the bracket for mechanical support and to mount a cooler guard.
I am planning on a screen type aluminum guard to bolt on this bracket.
I might have it cut out at a water-jet machine shop.
I have a few designs drawn up. I will get photos up when I get to that part built.

As far as selling these parts...
I am sure that I can make complete kits. First I have to make sure everything fits/works.
It will clear the MSR skid plate. The skid plate even protects the bottom "tank" on the cooler.

Keep looking here for my progress. I work slow (anal).
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:39 PM   #49
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Hi Ben,
You are reading my mind! I made the bracket for mechanical support and to mount a cooler guard.
I am planning on a screen type aluminum guard to bolt on this bracket.
I might have it cut out at a water-jet machine shop.
I have a few designs drawn up. I will get photos up when I get to that part built.

As far as selling these parts...
I am sure that I can make complete kits. First I have to make sure everything fits/works.
It will clear the MSR skid plate. The skid plate even protects the bottom "tank" on the cooler.

Keep looking here for my progress. I work slow (anal).
GSMark to keep your cost down on the cooler guard. Get some rain gutter screen gaurd. I have seen other guys use it for the same type of cooler. Take your time and do it right. I will be checking out your progress. Ben
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:41 PM   #50
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How close is your header pipe to those oil lines, GSMark? Your'e fabricating looks good.
Good question and thank you..
My pipes are out to get JetHot coated.
Checking by "eyeball" from the front of the bike, there should not be any problem.
If by chance they come too close to the pipe, I can adjust the spacers on the mounting plate of the cooler or move the hose guide away from the header a little. I am not forcasting any problem with clearance problems.

When they come back home I will know for sure.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:56 PM   #51
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Beautiful setup GSMark!

Have you considered flipping the cooler upside-down like truck6driver's on page 2? I'd think that if the inlet/outlet was on the bottom instead of the top, you wouldn't have to worry about the hoses coming near/in contact with the header.

Again, excellent fab work GSMark!
Yes I have considered the bottom entry method. EEEWWWW!

After looking things over, searching the web, looking at photos, etc... (for weeks).
I decided to go with the lines from the top. I don't see contact with the header as a problem.
The most important reason for doing it this way, was ease of repair on the trail.
I will carry a small piece of the cut-off steel oil line in my tool bag and easily bypass the cooler in case it gets damaged.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:59 PM   #52
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Very sweet setup. Wonder if you put one on each side how cool she would run? Hmmm! You could slip the clutch in the woods for a year with a high comp piston and a huge cam never get warm!
Funny!
Might have to defrost the engine after each ride!
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Old 07-23-2010, 06:04 PM   #53
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Im in for some. What oil cooler did you go with? Where did you get it and how much?

That is amazing wish i could fab like that.
Thanks!

Looks like the part numbers have changes since I purchased mine.

http://www.setrabusa.com/jagg/pages/universal.htm


http://www.setrabusa.com/jagg/images...wings/3110.pdf

Looks like part number 3110
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:27 PM   #54
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I like that protective bracket that GSMark made to protect that oil cooler. That resolves my issue with that location with the exception of air flow.
Thanks for your insight.
Not to be a smart ass... Really.
The air flow in front of my cooler has nothing in front of it. The front tire/wheel is the only thing in ahead of the cooler... (as is your set-up) but there is nothing in front of the cooler.
Why would the ambient temperature be any different lower on the bike than the ambient temperature up by the head light? Maybe you are thinking that the cooler being close to the engine and exhaust might hamper the cooling? (not air flow)
Couldn't say for sure. I can't believe the heat from the header would be a problem as it is not near the cooler. I could be wrong????? Maybe if you are going very slow for hours on end.... still getting the hot oil away from the system would still help cool the oil. No?

Air flow issue, I don't see one.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:17 PM   #55
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Yes I have considered the bottom entry method. EEEWWWW!

After looking things over, searching the web, looking at photos, etc... (for weeks).
I decided to go with the lines from the top. I don't see contact with the header as a problem.
The most important reason for doing it this way, was ease of repair on the trail.
I will carry a small piece of the cut-off steel oil line in my tool bag and easily bypass the cooler in case it gets damaged.


Mark...i would avoid having the oil lines going in from the bottom IMHO...........the way you have it now is probably the best/proper way...no chance of a partial airlock i would think


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Old 07-23-2010, 10:09 PM   #56
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Mark...i would avoid having the oil lines going in from the bottom IMHO...........the way you have it now is probably the best/proper way...no chance of a partial airlock i would think


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Why is that Brian?

I'd think that having them on the bottom would be better because gravity would be your friend, especially when it comes to airlocks.

trucker6driver has had his installed that way and it's operated flawlessly for 10 years ... just sayin'
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I don't think you're a smartass, GSMark. I think your fabricating and design looks great. I'm not worried about engine heat, and I'll take your word regarding airflow to your design's oil cooler. I'm in the process of moving my oil cooler about 2 inches back by trimming the plastic headlight nacelle, and doing some rewelding. This will place the oil cooler closer to the pivot point of the front forks with less stress on the oil hoses. I have had no problems with the hoses, but had to put about an inch of slack in them for turning the front wheel. Also, I can make a mesh screen for the headlight and oil cooler that is flush. This will look much better. BTW, what is your occupation?
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Hi little Faus,
I think that your changes will make a great design even better.

For a living, I am an illustrator.
Yeah, people pay me money to draw pictures... no kidding.

Something that I didn't think of when I mounted my cooler is, there will be a cooler full of oil that won't get emptied when I change my oil. I change my oil way to often and this shouldn't be a big deal.
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:34 AM   #59
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Hi little Faus,
I think that your changes will make a great design even better.

For a living, I am an illustrator.
Yeah, people pay me money to draw pictures... no kidding.

Something that I didn't think of when I mounted my cooler is, there will be a cooler full of oil that won't get emptied when I change my oil. I change my oil way to often and this shouldn't be a big deal.
I'm sure you could take some compressed air and blow the oil in the cooler out if someone was worried about dirty oil and sediment building up in the cooler.
Not a big deal and easy to do by pulling one of the lines of.

Nice work BTW.....
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:47 AM   #60
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.....usually best to have the feed lines doing "top entry" - this is an oil level thing. And as stated the cooler only holds 1/2 cupfull, so if oils regularly changed, shouldn't cause any problems, coz its been running cooler & more of it in the motor

That way when its newly fitted, run the bike to warm it up. Check oil level, which due to filling the cooler will be low. Top it up and sorted

If the line come out from the underside of the cooler (depending on what height its situated on the bike) it can back-drain which makes it hard to judge the oil level.

But, as long as its all fitted OK, can't really see any other operational "pro's or cons".
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