ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-26-2005, 04:07 PM   #1
skeeter OP
Captain Safety
 
skeeter's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Location: Lockport, Il
Oddometer: 1,872
Torque values for DRZ400

Would anyone happen to know the torque values for the counter sprocket nut and rear axle nut on a DRZ400. I don't have my service manual yet and haven't been able to find the values on the internet yet. I torqued them to the values for my KLR650 (72 ft/lbs on counter sprocket, 58 ft/lbs on rear axle). Close enough? More? Less????
skeeter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2005, 06:10 PM   #2
tbirdsp
REMF
 
tbirdsp's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Location: Nebraska
Oddometer: 8,708
rear axle 72.5 ft/lbs
countershaft sprocket 79.5 ft/lbs
__________________
Mike S.
'09 Bonneville Black, '05 KLR650, '07 Yam Majesty
AMA MSTA
http://www.reddeliciousband.com
tbirdsp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2005, 06:50 PM   #3
skeeter OP
Captain Safety
 
skeeter's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Location: Lockport, Il
Oddometer: 1,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by tbirdsp
rear axle 72.5 ft/lbs
countershaft sprocket 79.5 ft/lbs
Thanks!! I'll re-torque them.
skeeter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 12:13 AM   #4
oldasdirt
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: May 2005
Oddometer: 261
Talking oldasdirt on countershaft sprockets.

Quote:
Originally Posted by skeeter
Would anyone happen to know the torque values for the counter sprocket nut and rear axle nut on a DRZ400. I don't have my service manual yet and haven't been able to find the values on the internet yet. I torqued them to the values for my KLR650 (72 ft/lbs on counter sprocket, 58 ft/lbs on rear axle). Close enough? More? Less????
I've got the same as tbitd sp does. On the counter use some blue locktight too. They have kind of a reputation for working there way loose. Sure don't hurt to give it a tug now and then either. it truly is one of the things to watch on the DRZ.oldasdirt
oldasdirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 07:30 AM   #5
DRZ400SK4
Beastly Adventurer
 
DRZ400SK4's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2005
Location: Newfoundland
Oddometer: 2,047
Word to the wise...

It is absolutely essential that you apply red Loctite to the CS splines and threads!

Despite the spline locking washer, the nut WILL come loose eventually, and this will cause the CS oil seal to fail.

Do it now! It's a critical issue with the DRZ.
DRZ400SK4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 11:06 AM   #6
viverrid
not dead yet
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Location: Western Mass
Oddometer: 30,482
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRZ400SK4
It is absolutely essential that you apply red Loctite to the CS splines and threads! Despite the spline locking washer, the nut WILL come loose eventually, and this will cause the CS oil seal to fail.
I too have heard people post on Thumpertalk about disasterous CS oil seal failures, loosening sprockets, etc. Yet FWIW, I know of numerous dirt ridden DRZs, none of which has had any of this.....

I DON'T think its a BAD idea by any means, just maybe not as critical as all that??? (But then I don't know anyone with a problem with the A.C.C.T. either.)
__________________
Advanced pancreatic cancer found 04/2010. Have outlived +/- 97% of patients with this diagnosis, but 08/2013 cancer now in liver, vascular system and lungs with 20+ lung tumors. Sick/weak sometimes, not riding much. No more treatments & now under Hospice care.
viverrid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 11:11 AM   #7
DRZ400SK4
Beastly Adventurer
 
DRZ400SK4's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2005
Location: Newfoundland
Oddometer: 2,047
It's basically a very easy fix to do, so well worth the peace of mind in my opinion.

There have been many posts from guys on the TT forum, who have had the bike suddenly spew oil all over the rear tire while riding. Not a good scenario. And even more guys who have found the nut to be hand tight upon checking it.

So this simple 15 minute job could very well save your life.

A good project for the next rainy afternoon.
DRZ400SK4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 01:24 PM   #8
skeeter OP
Captain Safety
 
skeeter's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Location: Lockport, Il
Oddometer: 1,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRZ400SK4
Word to the wise...

It is absolutely essential that you apply red Loctite to the CS splines and threads!

Despite the spline locking washer, the nut WILL come loose eventually, and this will cause the CS oil seal to fail.

Do it now! It's a critical issue with the DRZ.
If you use red locktite, I would imagine you would have to use some kind of puller to remove the sprocket later?
skeeter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 01:29 PM   #9
jdiaz
.
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Location: Flyover State
Oddometer: 32,103
If you use red Loctite, you would just need heat to remove the nut.

That said, I only torqued the nut on my bike to spec and used the locking washer, and never had a problem. My DRZ didn't have a lot of miles on it, but saw an inordinately large amount of mud packed between the CS sprocket and the engine case while I had it, and the seal never failed.

Jon
jdiaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 06:45 PM   #10
tbirdsp
REMF
 
tbirdsp's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Location: Nebraska
Oddometer: 8,708
Quote:
Originally Posted by viverrid
I too have heard people post on Thumpertalk about disasterous CS oil seal failures, loosening sprockets, etc. Yet FWIW, I know of numerous dirt ridden DRZs, none of which has had any of this.....

I DON'T think its a BAD idea by any means, just maybe not as critical as all that??? (But then I don't know anyone with a problem with the A.C.C.T. either.)

I've changed my front sprocket 3 or 4 times at least, never used locktight and never had a problem. Of course, this means I was re-torquing it to spec every so often. I think a lot of folks don't tighten them enough.
Agree, not a bad idea, but critical? I don't know. That SOB is hard enough to get off (normally anyway) I personally am not gonna make it harder.
__________________
Mike S.
'09 Bonneville Black, '05 KLR650, '07 Yam Majesty
AMA MSTA
http://www.reddeliciousband.com
tbirdsp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 06:47 PM   #11
tbirdsp
REMF
 
tbirdsp's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Location: Nebraska
Oddometer: 8,708
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdiaz
If you use red Loctite, you would just need heat to remove the nut.

That said, I only torqued the nut on my bike to spec and used the locking washer, and never had a problem. My DRZ didn't have a lot of miles on it, but saw an inordinately large amount of mud packed between the CS sprocket and the engine case while I had it, and the seal never failed.

Jon
Jon, did you still have the plastic countershaft sprocket cover on? I ditched that thing and got a B&B Aluminum case saver, much less mud build-up.
__________________
Mike S.
'09 Bonneville Black, '05 KLR650, '07 Yam Majesty
AMA MSTA
http://www.reddeliciousband.com
tbirdsp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2005, 11:21 PM   #12
jdiaz
.
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Location: Flyover State
Oddometer: 32,103
Quote:
Originally Posted by tbirdsp
Jon, did you still have the plastic countershaft sprocket cover on? I ditched that thing and got a B&B Aluminum case saver, much less mud build-up.
No, I yanked that thing the first day. I just happened to ride a lot with people who liked mud.

Jon
jdiaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2005, 03:35 AM   #13
skeeter OP
Captain Safety
 
skeeter's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Location: Lockport, Il
Oddometer: 1,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdiaz
No, I yanked that thing the first day. I just happened to ride a lot with people who liked mud.

Jon
With the cover off it makes it a lot easier to see if the nut is coming loose.
skeeter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2011, 11:42 AM   #14
fujian
Gnarly Adventurer
 
fujian's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2010
Location: Langford ( Victoria ) British Columbia, Canada
Oddometer: 191
Agreed, Also have my Front sprocket cover off.
fujian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2011, 02:50 PM   #15
Naq
Kitsune
 
Naq's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Philly
Oddometer: 200
Bluhduh

FWIW my CS sprocket was only being held on by the bent washer at 3500miles. I blue locktited it.
__________________
That side up.


'02 FZ1, '02 DRZ400S, '09 TE250
Naq is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 10:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014