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Old 11-01-2009, 01:07 AM   #76
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I am also in the market and was recently quoted $12,900 on a white 2010, heated grips, on board computer, and ABS. Seems like a fair deal. Anyone finding any beter deals out there?

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Good Question, I am looking for that answer also. My dealer has only a 2009 F800GS demo bike for sale. It has 3,100 miles on it and they are discounting it by $1,900. So the out the door price with tax, title, and License is $14,990 ($12,670 with out TTL). They added a bunch of options on it. It has ABS, computer, and heated grips.

1. Comes with Street and Dirt tires
2. Skid Plate
3. Had Guards
4. Crash Bars
5. BMW top case (it is the one that expands for larger items if you need it)
6. Center Stand
7. Touring windscreen

What do you guys think? Is it a good deal? Or should I wait for 2010 models.
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Old 11-01-2009, 05:26 AM   #77
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better deals

I found mine on www.craiglook.com It searches craigslist all over the USA. I ended up w an orange 2010 for $11.5. ABS, heated grips, center stand, no computer tho...The milage was 1000.... I sucked it up and took the orange, not my first color of choice. Go to that site and type in f800gs.. Lots to pick from when I was shopping last month...

I am looking at bucks now for the dirt tires and engine guards and bags...so in the end it might be a wash
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:57 PM   #78
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LadyLisa, is the switch gear on your 2010 the same as on the 09's, i.e. turn signal paddles on both sides of the bars, or is the Jap style toggle on the left only?
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Old 11-01-2009, 02:15 PM   #79
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Try getting the faster magnesium grey model from 2009 while you still can...
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:17 PM   #80
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LadyLisa, is the switch gear on your 2010 the same as on the 09's, i.e. turn signal paddles on both sides of the bars, or is the Jap style toggle on the left only?
Much to my dismay, my 2010 has the archaic 25 year old BMW three-button turn-signal switchgear. When I requested the shop to adapt and mount the more modern F800R switchgear the mechanic gave up because the F800R switchgear required a different "electronic brain" and "too much modification work". I'm not impressed, to say the least. Apparently the new generation F800R MID-technology is not compatible with the F800GS electronics.

Another related story is the shop was swamped with folks delivering their bikes for winter-storage and one senior mechanic had quit due to a muscle injury a few months earlier, hence mechanic overload.

BMW press info:
"New electrical switch units.

As in the new K 1300 models, the F 800 R features switches and controls of
an entirely new generation. The new switch units use MID technology
(Moulded Interconnect Devices; lasered conductors instead of individual
wiring) and are thus much smaller and more compact while also offering
a wider range of functions, clear design and optimum reachability.
"
I hate the three-button system and use it adequately, but never hit that daft horn-button when needed since it's so oddly shaped and requires a non-intuitive upward thumb-push.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:41 PM   #81
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So now the choice, White or Orange?
I'm glad I grabbed the Yellow/Black while I could get it.

I know it is not "all about the color". But ya gatta love the Yellow/Black


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Try getting the faster magnesium grey model from 2009 while you still can...
Shhhh don't tell him... let him go with this idea and grab the last Y/B.




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Old 11-01-2009, 07:48 PM   #82
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LadyLisa, is the switch gear on your 2010 the same as on the 09's, i.e. turn signal paddles on both sides of the bars, or is the Jap style toggle on the left only?
My 2010 has the paddles, not toggle like my Kawasaki does.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:46 AM   #83
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My yellow/black 2009 has the three-button switch paddles as well. I like 'em. Took some getting used to though.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:52 AM   #84
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So it looks like the only changes are a new chain and rear sprocket bolts. Oh, and of course a different colored front brake reservoir.

However, it is important to note that these changes are not model year changes, and it's not necessarily safe to say that all 2010's have these changes. These are simply BMW assembly line changes. When they went into place is unknown. Some 2009's have these changes and some don't. It seems also that some 2010's also don't have these changes.
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:28 PM   #85
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So it looks like the only changes are a new chain and rear sprocket bolts. Oh, and of course a different colored front brake reservoir.

However, it is important to note that these changes are not model year changes, and it's not necessarily safe to say that all 2010's have these changes. These are simply BMW assembly line changes. When they went into place is unknown. Some 2009's have these changes and some don't. It seems also that some 2010's also don't have these changes.
You can bet that if BMW would NOT announce it if the '10 included changes to fix design flaws.

If I were shopping I'd buy a '10.
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Old 11-27-2009, 09:02 PM   #86
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Got my self a new 2010 model white coloured and so far so good

Has anyone driven the 2008-09 model and 2010, noticed any difference in the front suspension?
The 2010 seems to be stiffer than the 08-09 model.

a couple of photos from my bike.



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Old 11-28-2009, 07:32 AM   #87
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Sprocket bolts & rear hub?

Looking at a 2010 vs. my 2009 (and of course this could have been a running change) the rear sprocket bolts are 10mm vs. the 8mm on the 2009. I wonder if the rear hub castings were modified or if they just drilled the holes 2mm larger? ....

It seems that 6 x 8mm bolt should have been adequate?
I wonder what compelled them to upgrade that....
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:14 AM   #88
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I originally thought that the only change between the 09's and 10's was the color. This is due to the fact that my dealer had two 2010 F800GS's in a couple of months ago when I was getting some service done. Both of those 2010's had the same rear sprocket bolts and same chain as my 2009. However, I was over there again just a week or so ago, and the single white 2010 they had in had the larger rear sprocket bolts and different chain. As I said before, looks like some 2010's didn't ship from Germany with these changes.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what these changes are for exactly. Are they there for some sort of reliability issue? Or is it just that the available parts to use in manufacturing changed? These things happen sometimes. Changes are in manufacturing materials change for the simple reason that the previous materials are no longer available.

Either way, I can tell you that I've had absolutely no problems with my rear sprocket or chain whatsoever. And there's been a lot of times where I've seriously laid into the throttle. As in wheely time.
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:29 PM   #89
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I have seen here in Cyprus, broken rear ball rings and chains snapped on 2008 models but nothing to do with the rear sproket.

I do not believe that any factory would run-out of bolts unless the factory making the sprocket made the holes larger and had to fit larger bolts and the fitting to the bike also had to become larger. Thats a lot of changes to be done just to make a larger in diameter hole and threads.

The version 2010 i own does have larger bolts fitted (10mm) but very noticeable is the front springs that seem very much stiffer than 08 - 09 models that i have ridden in the past.

It might just be me or has anyone else noticed this?
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:28 AM   #90
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I originally thought that the only change between the 09's and 10's was the color. This is due to the fact that my dealer had two 2010 F800GS's in a couple of months ago when I was getting some service done. Both of those 2010's had the same rear sprocket bolts and same chain as my 2009. However, I was over there again just a week or so ago, and the single white 2010 they had in had the larger rear sprocket bolts and different chain. As I said before, looks like some 2010's didn't ship from Germany with these changes.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what these changes are for exactly. Are they there for some sort of reliability issue? Or is it just that the available parts to use in manufacturing changed?
Here's my guess: Engineers recommend the change. The bean counters say ok, but only when factory stock of the current items is exhausted.
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